All im saying is i wouldn't go for a reference GTX680 card... I'm running a MSI GTX680 (reference) just now and sure i can play BF3, MW3, GTA IV ect. on max setting with respectable framerates (avg. 70+ FPS, intense situations on BF3 i can see drops to ~45) but it has one major downfall... if runs too hot for my liking. I have seen the 680 top out at 78c! so basically if you want a 680 go for a liquid cooled one or a non-reference card with improved cooling