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    Quote Originally Posted by RAH-66 View Post
    Regulated height of isolation from the surface.

    p.s. crack only works on version Bloody5 (V2014.0115C)
    Ok thank you for answer

    Before crack process need to upgrade to Bloody5 V2014.0115C or need to uninstall old Bloody5 software and install V2014.0115C?
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    Will RAH-66´s method work with the wireless R8-1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow 13 View Post
    Ok thank you for answer
    Before crack process need to upgrade to Bloody5 V2014.0115C or need to uninstall old Bloody5 software and install V2014.0115C?
    Crack not work on new version Bloody5 V2014.0331, but once activated, you can update to a new version. https://www.bloody.tw/cn/download.php
    Quote Originally Posted by 1.0mailer View Post
    Will RAH-66´s method work with the wireless R8-1?
    Yes, works with all Bloody mouse series.

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    Thanks!
    Worked for the wireless R8-1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAH-66 View Post
    Crack not work on new version Bloody5 V2014.0331, but once activated, you can update to a new version. https://www.bloody.tw/cn/download.php

    Yes, works with all Bloody mouse series.
    I just came to know that Razer macro doesn't work with Crossfire.

    So I am going with A4Tech and also your cracking method will be very helpful.

    But the question is, is V3 better or V7 in terms of grip and acceleration ?
    I am getting this not only for recoil supression, so how much would you rate this on a scale of 10 as a gaming mouse ? @Ye.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost+ View Post
    But the question is, is V3 better or V7 in terms of grip and acceleration ?
    V3=V7 inside they are the same, the only difference form. Buy Bloody ZL5, it is better.
    I have V7 and Zl5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost+ View Post


    I just came to know that Razer macro doesn't work with Crossfire.

    So I am going with A4Tech and also your cracking method will be very helpful.

    But the question is, is V3 better or V7 in terms of grip and acceleration ?
    I am getting this not only for recoil supression, so how much would you rate this on a scale of 10 as a gaming mouse ? @Ye.....
    V3, V7 uses same sensor (Pixart 3350DK)

    V8 PCB is same as V7 (interchangeable)

    Sensor -> 8.5/10

    1 point off because prediction in firmware / minor angle snapping (smoothing)
    .5 point off because minor acceleration (I can feel it)

    As shape goes, you can select which is best for your grip style. The V3 is almost similar to a Razer DA.

    Hardware wise, scroll wheel is a bit weird on my V8 (sometimes is has a 1 tick feedback, sometimes it snaps at half click).

    Clicker button uses HUANO switches (10M cycle, blue color). Compared to Omron (D2FC-F-7N), it has a more tactile feedback+faster rebound at a cost of higher click resistance.


    1600DPi / 1000Hz is best setting for this sensor (1600 up, IIRC it's interpolated DPi)

    Lens uses custom Holeless engine, adjustable LOD and pressure
    The "calibration" in Bloody5 determines the optimal distance between lens<->surface, and adjust for best performance [if you have a lower value, meaning high tracking surface, pressing down the mouse and swiping will cause errors. but if you adjust your mouse to higher value in calibrator, it can track better even if you apply more pressure [low tracking distance]])


    Quote Originally Posted by RAH-66 View Post
    V3=V7 inside they are the same, the only difference form. Buy Bloody ZL5, it is better.
    I have V7 and Zl5.
    ZL5, TL8, WL5 mouse can really just fuck themselves

    VSCEL (ADNS 9800) sensor is JUST FOR DPI HYPE -> positive hardware acceleration, jitter issue on cloth mousepad (problem, since the QCK series is most widely used by gamers), and overall just a B-grade mouse sensor

    ZL5 "sniper" button is not needed, because switching DPi in game messes with your muscle memory and unconscious "snap" reflex aim, this is why ESL/MLG players only stick to ONE DPi in game.

    Sniper button is a gimmick basically.



    What we need is a re-release of the V-series gaming mouse with PIXART 3310 sensor! It is optical (can be used with Holeless lens), does not have any negative/positive acceleration and no prediction/angle snapping.

    DPi is native / non interpolated all the way from 200-5000DPi.


    Mouses that use this sensor (3310) currently is the SS Rival and Mionix Naos/Avior 7000
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow 13 View Post
    Sensor -> 8.5/10

    1 point off because prediction in firmware / minor angle snapping (smoothing)
    .5 point off because minor acceleration (I can feel it)
    Awwwwww, I was expecting a mouse that I need for headshotting at long so I need low sense for slow mouse movement and if someone is behind my back, I have to accelerate to turn back fast instead running over my mousepad couple of times and getting owned.

    Razer's Synapse has some sort of thing I guess, but I am confused why this doesn't have that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost+ View Post


    Awwwwww, I was expecting a mouse that I need for headshotting at long so I need low sense for slow mouse movement and if someone is behind my back, I have to accelerate to turn back fast instead running over my mousepad couple of times and getting owned.

    Razer's Synapse has some sort of thing I guess, but I am confused why this doesn't have that.
    Just use 1600dpi and an ingame sens that you'll be comfortable at

    You'll get used to the smoothing/prediction eventually
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow 13 View Post
    ZL5, TL8, WL5 mouse can really just fuck themselves
    All this nonsense that you wrote about ZL5, write reviews owners Steel Series, which, as a rule, even in the hands didn't hold. This topic is not to discuss the merits of different brands.
    ZL5 "sniper" button is not needed, because switching DPi in game messes with your muscle memory and unconscious "snap" reflex aim, this is why ESL/MLG players only stick to ONE DPi in game.
    Sniper button is a gimmick basically.
    So write holders SS and Razer who do not even realize its functions, ZL5 have a separate button DPI, ever write, how to write "Why Mercedes, I have WV Golf?", at least this is an additional button. Next, ADNS9800 several generations ahead PixArt3305DK and all what you wrote is a nonsense.


    p.s. Write about WL5, which is not for sale, it's ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAH-66 View Post
    All this nonsense that you wrote about ZL5, write reviews owners Steel Series, which, as a rule, even in the hands didn't hold. This topic is not to discuss the merits of different brands.

    So write holders SS and Razer who do not even realize its functions, ZL5 have a separate button DPI, ever write, how to write "Why Mercedes, I have WV Golf?", at least this is an additional button. Next, ADNS9800 several generations ahead PixArt3305DK and all what you wrote is a nonsense.


    p.s. Write about WL5, which is not for sale, it's ridiculous.

    ZL5, TL8, WL5 (dual mode wired-wireless) use the same VCSEL sensor of ADNS-9800. 3305DK is optical, in the gaming world, Optical sensor is much more preferable compared to VCSEL based sensor. ADNS9800 has positive acceleration and jitter issue, high DPi does not matter if the sensor is bad.

    ZL5 "sniper button" (lowers DPi on click) is just a marketing technique to attract unknown buyers. Lowering DPi in game, as I said, has negative effect on muscle memory.

    Not mentioning, the ZL/TL/WL (especially WL, with built in battery) is extremely heavy compared to V-series. For fast paced FPS games, lightness of mouse is preferable because it enables you to respond/move mouse with less effort and faster. (ps: you can reduce V-series weight by removing lead block inside of mouse)



    ADNS 3310, optical, is much better than any "laser" VCSEL sensor (9500, 9800). It is the 2nd best sensor in the market as of Apr/May 2014. Logitech also has the ADNS 3366 with native 12.000DPi max (G502).



    In the end, even though the 3350DK is an older sensor, it's much better in terms of precision and has lower acceleration than the 9800. 99% of pro player will agree that optical is best sensor for mouse.



    SS Rival / Mionix Avior-Naos 7000. I do not say that these mouse is better, what I say is that the SENSOR that is used in this mouse is better than the ADNS-9800.

    ADNS 3310 does NOT have any smoothing or acceleration feature. It has true 1:1 cursor movement. And it's optical, which means that the sensor works well with CLOTH mousepad like the SS QCK or Artisan Hien. A lot of gamers have cloth pad instead of hard pad.




    For my vote, 3350DK is better than the ADNS-9800. It might have lower DPi and max speed, but the tracking accuracy and better movement-to-input ratio is more desirable.



    WL5 atm is only on sale in the chinese market, international export may have to wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow 13 View Post
    ZL5, TL8, WL5 ..........
    Once again make sure that you write nonsense, ZL5 weighs as V7. Secondly, according to your conjectures SteelSeries Sensei MLG 62153 (ADNS-9800) too bad?

    p.s. And please stop writing about things which you not have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAH-66 View Post
    Once again make sure that you write nonsense, ZL5 weighs as V7. Secondly, according to your conjectures SteelSeries Sensei MLG 62153 (ADNS-9800) too bad?

    p.s. And please stop writing about things which you not have.
    I do have the TL8 mouse. I don't like it.


    Any mouse that uses ADNS 9800 = bad, including the SS Sensei MLG. The SS Rival/Mionix 7000 uses 3310 sensor which I already said is superior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow 13 View Post
    I do have the TL8 mouse. I don't like it.
    This explains why you write negative reviews. Not even going to write why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAH-66 View Post
    This explains why you write negative reviews. Not even going to write why.
    Read my post again.

    Optical mouse > Laser mouse
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