Try to convince me that the principles of Islam are true.
Try to convince me that the principles of Islam are true.
Read the Quran with the aim to understand it: https://quran.com/
Any questions you have about who the verse is directed to, the historical context behind the verse, the meaning behind verse, then search for it in the Islamic Library: https://www.al-islam.org/
If you have any genuine questions(not loaded questions) feel free to ask me and I'll try my best to answer.
Last edited by robinvanpersie; 10-28-2014 at 05:26 AM.
Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.
Alif, Lam, Meem. - 2:1 Quran
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah(God) - 2:2 Quran
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, - 2:3 Quran
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. - 2:4 Quran
Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful. - 2:5 Quran
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. - 2:6 Quran
Here's a pretty easy question for you:
Why should we believe what the quran says is true?
Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.
Alif, Lam, Meem. - 2:1 Quran
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah(God) - 2:2 Quran
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, - 2:3 Quran
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. - 2:4 Quran
Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful. - 2:5 Quran
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. - 2:6 Quran
Clique (01-03-2015)
I have read the Quran and I am telling you the message could have not been written by men. You haven't read the Quran and you are saying it was written by men. If you are not willing to at least read the holy book of Muslims then why ask why should I believe that Islam is the truth in the first place?
Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.
Alif, Lam, Meem. - 2:1 Quran
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah(God) - 2:2 Quran
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, - 2:3 Quran
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. - 2:4 Quran
Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful. - 2:5 Quran
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. - 2:6 Quran
I have read the quran, so your straw-man argument doesn't work. If you are going to sit here and say "well if you read it you'd know" and that's your entire argument, then you might as well leave.
The fact that I do not take the book for truth, does not mean I have not read it. Learn to come up with better reasons for your belief please.
Your fallacies today are: Personal Incredulity and straw-man.
https:/rlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity
https:/rlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
I have believed it for 22 years and I haven't blown up cars or people. I am thinking logically, you need to think before commenting. According to Islam, God is not a person "to come down and make this all." Well obviously it has an explanation, which is different for people.
Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.
Alif, Lam, Meem. - 2:1 Quran
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah(God) - 2:2 Quran
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, - 2:3 Quran
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. - 2:4 Quran
Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful. - 2:5 Quran
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. - 2:6 Quran
The effort you put into finding more about the Quran and Islam proves you have read the book.
Last edited by CaptainBlastXD; 10-31-2014 at 09:33 AM.
Faith is to consider something to be sure and reliable without doubting. There is more than enough proof for God and nothing is comparable to God. The fact that billions of people believe in God and none believe in Unicorns, leprachauns etc itself shows that there is proof for God. Those billions of people have found their proof, no human believes in something without what they deem is proof to them.
Now you are probably asking how can I find this proof? Before you find it, you have ask yourself a very important question. Do you actually want to believe in God? This may sound simple, but have a deep think. When someone makes an argument for God, does it make you want to read and understand what he is saying, or does it make you annoyed and angry? Is the thoughts in your head trying to help you understand, or is the first thing you think about a counter argument?
If you know that you want to believe in God then find somewhere quiet and read about it. Belief in God is a personal thing that you have to find for yourself. Arguing, especially over the internet, is pointless. If you have genuine questions, I can try to help rationalise them for you.
Personally, the reasons I believe in God are in three groups: personal reasons, logical reasons, and the Quran.
Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.
Alif, Lam, Meem. - 2:1 Quran
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah(God) - 2:2 Quran
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, - 2:3 Quran
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. - 2:4 Quran
Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful. - 2:5 Quran
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. - 2:6 Quran
1.2.3.
1. If there is proof for god(more than enough), post it.
2. I'm a skeptic. I don't believe in anything without proof or justification for it. You want to convince me, provide your argument for god and I'll see if it isn't full of fallacies.
(so far you've already used the population fallacy and claimed that's proof. But I'm willing to give you a shot).
3. People believe in stupid things all the time. Just because X number of people believe in something, does not make it true.
Last edited by Empire; 11-02-2014 at 09:21 PM.
Short answer: No
Long answer: Nooooooo