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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DR3VO View Post
    Can you not read or just blind?
    Simply pinging a server does not cause any damage to the computer...
    Sending packets of any type of data to a server to ddos is doing damage to the computer and therefore is consider illegal under the CFAA.

    Also its not 404. Obviously you don't know how dos works in the first place...
    He didn't say pinging a server did damage. He said it is technically a DDoS attack, which in retrospect it is. All a DDoS attack does is flood a server with fake, corrupted, or broken packets of information until no other traffic can get through. In fact, DDoS attacks do no harm to actual equipment. All it does is prevent any other traffic from getting through. The real harm comes from other methods.

    A 404 can be considered an error due to excess traffic, which a DDoS attack can cause. '404 not found' simply means that the data located on the server you are trying to accessed can't be accessed. Simple as that. It could be because the data is damaged, missing, or inaccessible at the current time.

    Also, people need to learn the difference between 'DoS' and 'DDoS'. That bothers the shit out of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raple View Post


    He didn't say pinging a server did damage. He said it is technically a DDoS attack, which in retrospect it is. All a DDoS attack does is flood a server with fake, corrupted, or broken packets of information until no other traffic can get through. In fact, DDoS attacks do no harm to actual equipment. All it does is prevent any other traffic from getting through. The real harm comes from other methods.

    A 404 can be considered an error due to excess traffic, which a DDoS attack can cause. '404 not found' simply means that the data located on the server you are trying to accessed can't be accessed. Simple as that. It could be because the data is damaged, missing, or inaccessible at the current time.

    Also, people need to learn the difference between 'DoS' and 'DDoS'. That bothers the shit out of me.
    Pinging does not mean ddos in any way it would mean dos, but not ddos.
    Why do you think 13 members of Anonymous got put in jail for ddosing websites? The law states from CFAA that any (d)dos is consider illegal, also the Department of Justice handles all (d)dos attacks
    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ndictment.html Case hearing on ddos.

    The government sees any (d)dos as a cyber-attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youtro View Post

    Get into command line on two computers or more, type "ping google.com" and press enter on both computers at the same time. That's literally a ddos attack lol.. you think you'll get cops at your house for that? poor kid :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Source Unknown View Post
    You know nothing son.

    PS: Your signature is ironic.
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    Basically, I just wrote a long ass text that explained my point perfectly but I realized you two will never bother to read that shit twice so instead, I'm writing you this; suck my fucking dick. If you want me to prove to you that i'm right, maybe you should open up Wikipedia for once and read a thing or two, you'll be surprised with what you could learn when you actually want to.



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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DR3VO View Post
    Pinging does not mean ddos in any way it would mean dos, but not ddos.
    Why do you think 13 members of Anonymous got put in jail for ddosing websites? The law states from CFAA that any (d)dos is consider illegal, also the Department of Justice handles all (d)dos attacks
    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ndictment.html Case hearing on ddos.

    The government sees any (d)dos as a cyber-attack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Source Unknown View Post
    You know nothing son.

    PS: Your signature is ironic.
    If you had two computers, and they each pinged a website it is technically considered a DDoS. Definitely not noticeable nor an 'attack', but still.

    By D3D's logic, and I quote:
    Quote Originally Posted by D3DR3VO View Post
    Sending packets of any type of data to a server
    By definition, pinging is the sending of packets to a server to test connectivity.
    Taken from Wikipedia: "Ping is a computer network administration utility used to test the reachability of a host on an Internet Protocol (IP) network and to measure the round-trip time for messages sent from the originating host to a destination computer. The name comes from active sonar terminology which sends a pulse of sound and listens for the echo to detect objects underwater.[1] Ping operates by sending Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMP) echo request packets to the target host and waiting for an ICMP response."

    Let me lay it down simply.

    Pinging from one computer with the intent to damage, harm, or make a web server inaccessible is a DoS attack.
    Pinging from multiple computers with the intent to damage, harm, or make a web server inaccessible is a DDoS attack.

    Just use your brains and stop arguing before you make yourselves look even worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youtro View Post
    @D3DR3VO
    Basically, I just wrote a long ass text that explained my point perfectly but I realized you two will never bother to read that shit twice so instead, I'm writing you this; suck my fucking dick. If you want me to prove to you that i'm right, maybe you should open up Wikipedia for once and read a thing or two, you'll be surprised with what you could learn when you actually want to.
    I could give two shits about wiki.
    If wiki had one thing but the government did something other then what Wiki has told who would be right?
    This is why you don't seem to understand, instead of just also trying to find your answers on wiki maybe you should do some research on the topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raple View Post
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    If you had two computers, and they each pinged a website it is technically considered a DDoS. Definitely not noticeable nor an 'attack', but still.

    By D3D's logic, and I quote:


    By definition, pinging is the sending of packets to a server to test connectivity.
    Taken from Wikipedia: "Ping is a computer network administration utility used to test the reachability of a host on an Internet Protocol (IP) network and to measure the round-trip time for messages sent from the originating host to a destination computer. The name comes from active sonar terminology which sends a pulse of sound and listens for the echo to detect objects underwater.[1] Ping operates by sending Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMP) echo request packets to the target host and waiting for an ICMP response."

    Let me lay it down simply.

    Pinging from one computer with the intent to damage, harm, or make a web server inaccessible is a DoS attack.
    Pinging from multiple computers with the intent to damage, harm, or make a web server inaccessible is a DDoS attack.

    Just use your brains and stop arguing before you make yourselves look even worse.
    I already knew this.
    Sigh looks like people can't read.
    Besides I never said what a (d)dos was in the first place so when did you decide to tell me what it was when Youtro got them mixed up.
    You just posted irrelevant information that pretty much anyone knows. Don't see how using Wiki really means using your brain...
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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DR3VO View Post
    I could give two shits about wiki.
    If wiki had one thing but the government did something other then what Wiki has told who would be right?
    This is why you don't seem to understand, instead of just also trying to find your answers on wiki maybe you should do some research on the topic.



    I already knew this.
    Sigh looks like people can't read.
    Besides I never said what a (d)dos was in the first place so when did you decide to tell me what it was when Youtro got them mixed up.
    You just posted irrelevant information that pretty much anyone knows. Don't see how using Wiki really means using your brain...
    If pretty much anyone knew it, you would have realized Ping can be used for DDoS attacks if desired.



    Also, by 'using your brain', I meant to use some logic and think through what you're going to post before you post it. I realize you said it can be used for 'DoS attacks', but not for the aforementioned.

    Anyway, all the other stuff was really meant for the kiddo talking smack without actually giving his opinion on the matter. No mean to offend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raple View Post


    If pretty much anyone knew it, you would have realized Ping can be used for DDoS attacks if desired.



    Also, by 'using your brain', I meant to use some logic and think through what you're going to post before you post it. I realize you said it can be used for 'DoS attacks', but not for the aforementioned.

    Anyway, all the other stuff was really meant for the kiddo talking smack without actually giving his opinion on the matter. No mean to offend.
    I would hope that was a given.
    Thanks for the clearing up though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DR3VO View Post
    I could give two shits about wiki.
    If wiki had one thing but the government did something other then what Wiki has told who would be right?
    This is why you don't seem to understand, instead of just also trying to find your answers on wiki maybe you should do some research on the topic.



    I already knew this.
    Sigh looks like people can't read.
    Besides I never said what a (d)dos was in the first place so when did you decide to tell me what it was when Youtro got them mixed up.
    You just posted irrelevant information that pretty much anyone knows. Don't see how using Wiki really means using your brain...
    Stop talking about those damn arrests.. we both know you haven't read that shit OK? Don't worry neither did I but unlike you I accept the fact that ddosing by it self isn't freaken illegal. They were arrested for actual illegal shit but the fact that they ddos'd whoever is as relevant as the fact that they all once ate an apple. k?

    Also, I'm not Raple. I think you're mindlessly stubborn and that's not an insult, It's called criticism when it's true.
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