all i want to say , islam is beautiful , kind , mercy , they arent isis , isis are enemies from the west trying to make islam look bad ( pretending they are islam ) so they make us down . believe it or not . i wanted to tell u all so dont blame ur self at the end . ALLAH AKBAR ALLAH AKBAR ALLAH AKBAR
if u dont believe , then respect my religion , i respect urs.
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ALLAHU AKBAR!!*explosion*
Quran 24:23
@Xarnix ur the retard , cnn and most other enemies to arabs like isreal , they united and formed the ISIS which are terrorists and pretending to be one of us ( islam ) to make us look bad .. , ur the retard
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I literally just fucking said that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam...
please learn to read.
And please look up the quran quotes. In case you won't, click this.
https://quran.com/8/12
https://quran.com/9/5
@KeptOnService did u have muslim friends ? did u watch the friday pray ? maybe u seen bad people in islam , but all i can say , there are all types of people in all religions , nothing is perfect , nothing is 100% , but islam is from the closest ones , dont believe in anything u listen , and even if u saw , i cant tell u that all muslims are 100% pure .. we all do mistakes we all regret we all try to change in our selfs .
I AM NOT HERE TO FIGHT OR INSULT I AM HERE TO TELL U A TRUTH . SO DONT FIGHT
Islam doesnt allow mastrubating , watching porn , swearing , raping , scamming , murdering , look , if some1 expert in islam , as much time passes , he cant say how many things in islam are wonderful .. countless
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@Xarnix , many ppl are fooled and keep saying islam are terrorists arabs are terrorists bla bla bla because they believed in the lie that isis is with islam
i am not here to convince some1 to change his religion . everyone is free to believe what he wants . i just want respect to my religion as people respect urs . thanks and goodnight.
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kingofproz (09-23-2015)
First of all . u cant say islam is the top if you learned our religion really well .. ( i am a muslim ) but i still think you are kinda a shame for other muslims mate . you are really talking stupid things that wont attract anyone else and make us look even worse :/ DONT SAY ALLAHU AKABR ON EVERYTHING !
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you even sound dumber than the original thread creator ... You cant take a quote of no where unless you know the whole thing about it
Quran Says :
"لكم دينكم ولي دين"
"For you is your religion and for me is my religion''
We are only allowed to kill the people who Attack us . thats the whole idea of jihad . defending our properties and our lives . the quotes you mentioned were in a time that every muslim is being killed by those who dont believe in GOD . Christians for example Do believe in god , jews too .people kept dying untill they were finally allowed to fight back . how did they get allowed ? by those two quotes you mentioned . many other quotes too . but if you wana know what its all about read the WHOLE QURAN like all of it , and then you see for your self that our religion isnt based on killing or anything . for example , in Christianity who ever thinks of stealing his hand must be cut off , THINKS of stealing . these things werent made to torture people ! they were made to push them away from stealing , but people come around and quote those parts as if the Islam is based on them !
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btw the quote you just mentiod :
Indeed, those who [falsely] accuse chaste, unaware and believing women are cursed in this world and the Hereafter; and they will have a great punishment
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Sorry for being annoying but
Quran said too :
Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.
Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.
Proof that we dont really Kill other people too :
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.
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Islam teaches us how to be tolerant , it doesnt teach us how to kill people ^_^
[COLOR="Black"]Actually you misquoted and you did not address the quote or give context.
https://quran.com/28/55
The pretenses for Jihad are often very leniant. As ISIS is entirely justified in having jihad according to Islam.
>Also saying that christianity is stupid only really makes the point for atheist easier.
That's not really proof, that's just contradictions.
Again, instead of addressing the quotes in question you reference another quote.
That's just proving your quran can easily be interpretated to gain whatever position you want.
If you want justification for war quote X
If you want peace quote Y.
It's also very coincidental that all the war verses happened as Muhammad went to war, not before.
That is not a solution to my given question. It's pretty fucking clear Muhammad led an offensive war, take a look at a history book and not an ancient religious text and you'll see he wasn't a benevolent defender, he was a conqueror.
Using ad hominem and extremely random quotes from the Quran that had nothing to do with what I had addressed is not going to get you anywhere.
Actually no , thats a different aya that you mentiond ! i didnt misquote . about the addressing : https://quran.com/search?q=%D9%84%D9%...AF%D9%8A%D9%86
sorry i dont know how to give quotes online actually . its my first time reading Quran out of the internet but this will do
According to islam as i mentioned before .. you are only allowed to fight the ones who fight you , for example you cant go into a city and kill everyone you see ! according to islam too you are not allowed to even cut a tree during wars , killing elderly people , women and children isnt jihad and thats basicly what ISIS do .so isis doesnt relay on any base taking from islam
i dont think Christianity is stupid .. i think that every kind of religion is eventually connected to each other ! the purpose is to act good and not to fuck up this world
About this : Again, instead of addressing the quotes in question you reference another quote.
i did say before that you cant take a quote of nowhere and post it on MPGH to prove your point as Xarnix did . i said you have to read the Quran . ALL of it . and muhammad didnt start the war actually . Muslims were being killed and tortured he was allowed to Immigrate , i dont think that is fighting . they kept harming the muslims untill they were given the right to defend them selves .
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