
Originally Posted by
Empire
I would care about more important topics.
fine by me, I'll reply to one of your topics here bcoz I can't post there
http://www.mpgh.net/forum/90-islam-v...s-reality.html

Originally Posted by
Empire
Ok now for starters here are some disclaimers.
The Quran/Islam are not responsible for any actions by Muslims. Only those who wrote the Quran, and those who followed it are responsible for the actions taken. What Islam has brought upon the world is only due to its creator and its followers, the actual religion "Islam" can't take any blame anyway because it isn't a sentient being, so no actions could be taken.
Starting...
1. Most of the Muslims here, well I'm pretty sure all of them, do not live in the middle east, nor have they ever lived there for any extended length of time. When you talk about muslims, they think the 5% of muslims who live in the western world. Which in all honesty, is right for them to do, since personal experience has more impact on their opinions.
2. The majority of Muslims live in the middle east. Something like 90% of the muslim population is in third world countries, and most of it is spread in the middle east. In those third world countries, almost if not severely close to all of the population are muslim.
File:World Muslim Population Pew Forum.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Now when people talk about muslims, they are not talking about your token muslim in your class. They are not talking about the minority population in your city.
They are talking about the middle east and muslim culture.
You see, muslim culture in the middle east, is in the most basic sense: FUCKED UP.
As we have posted, and pretty much everyone can agree, the middle east, and the countries with over 90% majority muslim population, do crazy shit all the time. From stoning, to mutilation, to just outright killing the victims of a crime, there is always some insane shit going down.
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Now this is my point.
Muslims(or rather muslim culture), for the majority:
Abuses women, has really unfair laws and justification of crimes committed against others.
First of all only 20% of Muslims around the world live in Arab countries
Secondly Your point is implying that only in Muslim culture women get abused which is false on two basis, 1-Women abuse is wold wide issue 2-not all Muslim women are abused because of Islam
I can also point out that in America
1-One in four women (25%) has experienced domestic violence in her lifetime
2-On average, more than three women and one man are murdered by their intimate partners in this country every day.
3-America suffers from wide spread sex trafficking and prostitution
4-American media brainwashes the youths and often gives the implication that "pimping" is badass and awesome while in fact it is one of the most nefarious ways of blatant women abuse, that indeed is what I call a fucked up culture.
look for example what this pimp was furious about.
Thirdly your points is based on false premise because
[stoning] is not applied in many Muslim countries, including Egypt (90% Muslims)
[mutilation] if you're talking about male circumcision, then you also have to blame the Jewish culture for that, and most Muslim men have no regrets or in fact care at all about their circumcised *****es. if you mean female circumcision, it is outlawed in Islam and in many Muslim countries like Egypt (remember, 90% Muslims)
[outright killing the victims of a crime] I am yet to hear about one example of such act in any Muslim country, I did have read many Anti-Islam websites that claim rape victims are murdered in Islamic culture but I won't take you seriously anymore if you actually believe this is the normal judiciary in Islam.