So them Aussies

[Czar]

It doesn't but it shows how little America influenced the outcome of the Pacific War. Hence making Dave's argument irrelevant.

Midway, Battle of the Coral Sea.


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Midway, Battle of the Coral Sea.


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The Battle of Midway was to force American retreat. Was not an attack against Australia.

[[MPGH]Dave84311]

US was defeated in the war of 1812.

Proof or gtfo. /undefeated = ME

It doesn't but it shows how little America influenced the outcome of the Pacific War. Hence making Dave's argument irrelevant.

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America won the Pacific war, your soldiers were in AFRICA fighting Germans and loosing. STFU

[GOD]

get in the top 10 ******s

[Czar]

The Battle of Midway was to force American retreat. Was not an attack against Australia.

"America influenced the outcome of the Pacific War"
I was not speaking solely about Australia.

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Proof or gtfo. /undefeated = ME



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America won the Pacific war, your soldiers were in AFRICA fighting Germans and loosing. STFU

America only succeeded in defending their own bases. Australia drove the Japs back.

War Of 1812

[Czar]

Alright Australia..
You bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki next time, you defend Midway after having a massive portion of you navy destroyed.

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We don't have to do those things. That's just America showing off.

[[MPGH]Dave84311]

War Of 1812

There is much debate as to who won and lost the War of 1812. While most believe that the British won and the United States lost the war, there is even debate among those who answered this question. Below are the full arguments on both sides.
The British won due to the fact that they completed their objectives; defend Canada by killing the Americans who tried to invade.
American Deaths:11,300 killed, wounded or missing in action.
British Deaths: 8,600 killed, wounded or missing in action.
See related links below.
I would also like to add that Britain won the last battle between the two countries - "Battle of Fort Bowyer" and that during the time of this war Britain was also involved in the napoleon war. The Americans having failed all their objectives, forfeited and wanted to sign a peace treaty.
Additional answer: I'd like to add to his slightly. I am in Canada, where most Canadians claim to have won the war due to the American failure to capture Canada. I, however, look at it from this point of view: The British were forced to give up all the land gains they'd made during the war (true, the Americans also had to give back land, but it was not nearly as large an area). As well, the Americans were granted fishing rights in the St Lawrence river, which had previously been solely British. But lost the right to place warships in the great lakes. I believe it was strategically an British victory, as they successfully achieved their sole purpose.
Another Answer: The Americans had their fighting rights in the Maritimes and Great lakes taken away shortly after the war, and not returned until the 1850's. Also, most of the US war aims were never achieved. The returning of territory to the US does not mean that strategically the US won, if that were the case, then the British/Canadians won the war while the US won the peace treaty. Although the US had numerical superiority during the war, the British had more experienced commanders and soldiers for the most part in the early part of the war and by the time the American troops could fight the British on even terms, the British had sent thousands of additional battle trained troops from Europe in 1814. Overall it may be a stalemate militarily, but strategically and politically, if that was true, then the Korean Wars and the Vietnam War, up until the Americans left were also draws.
The Americas didn't win. The objective was to first take Upper Canada which they couldn't do. As I read the stats The Canadians/British controlled more lakes and rivers and killed more Americans. Plus America retreated back to America burning some villages on their way out. That's not winning, that's being a poor loser. No matter which way one looks at it the Americas objective was plain and simple to take over Canada and they retreated. strategically stand point they took more weapons when more British troops arrived they never returned. It's A Canadian win because this is not the first time America had tried to invade Canada and it was also not the first time America had failed.

I am one who believes that America won. Your point failed.

America only succeeded in defending their own bases. Australia drove the Japs back.1812[/URL]

America did that fool, we had Japan beat. We rubbed our cocks in their faces by using the nuke.

War on two fronts, and we still /won

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RUSSIA WON WW2.

[Invidus]

Thats irrelevant. It's on neither Aussie or America!

[Kevin Rudd]

na we pwnd the japs wiht our CMF and AIF

[R3V]

*Wishing Australia was a Republic nao*

Fk off US, Aus is unique, We got Abo's, Kangaroo's , Drop Bears, Dingos who eat babies, Late Steve Irwin, No Americans....and no fats.

US wud just fuck up Australia like they fked up their continent.

[Kevin Rudd]

yea we dont want 50 cent big macs

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Fuck all that shit. I wanna live in US and feast on some food.