What is the most difficult game?

[[MPGH]Wyo]

I won’t take into account games that are difficult for bad reasons. (Buggy camera, lousy control scheme, etc…)
I will also exclude all games where most of the difficulty is dependent on missing information for the player that cannot be “fairly” discovered in a sufficiently convenient way within the game (such as I-have-to-acquire-the-real-life-knowledge-on-how-to-fly-a-plane simulations).
Most of nowadays games aren’t challenging at all, and I have yet to see a AAA title which is (but, indeed, I do not play lots of those).

https://www.quor*****m/What-is-the-most-difficult-game

Can you stop copy-pasting. I've checked the half of your threads and it's all the same thing.

[_Gold_Digger_]

i think its Spelunky, and Super Meat Boy.

[Warside]

Rising Storm. That game took so long to get used to.

[a1Talent]

hard to beat?

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or hard to master?