BLM co-founder admits they are trained Marxists

[Gaydow]

BLM/Antifa/Marxists punching the air rn. This is actually so fucked up, dumbasses around the world are laying down and submitting to these retards. Imagine trained marxists organizing protests and fucking your own country up. GG.

[[MPGH]Dave84311]

so you're saying because the co-founder is a Marxist the whole black lives matters movement is delegitimized

did a black person touch your butt?

[Gaydow]

so you're saying because the co-founder is a Marxist the whole black lives matters movement is delegitimized

did a black person touch your butt?

It's not just one.

Who organizes the protests?
What would a trained Marxist be trained to do?

1984 is now.

RIP western society if this shit continues for the years to come.

did a black person touch your butt?

Has nothing to do with black people????????????????????????????????

[[MPGH]Dave84311]

It's not just one.

Who organizes the protests?
What would a trained Marxist be trained to do?

1984 is now.

RIP western society if this shit continues for the years to come.



Has nothing to do with black people????????????????????????????????

are you actually retarded or is that the neanderthal in you that doesn't seem to understand that there is systemic racism? just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it isn't there.

you should stay out of politics if you aren't going educate yourself across the board instead of watching your alt-right youtubers

[Gaydow]

are you actually retarded or is that the neanderthal in you that doesn't seem to understand that there is systemic racism? just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it isn't there.

you should stay out of politics if you aren't going educate yourself across the board instead of watching your alt-right youtubers

Lmao, give me one shred of evidence proving systemic racism exists.

Fuck that point, I simply brought up the fact that the people in charge of these movements are marxists. Why turn it into something about systemic racism when that's not even what I brought up?

[Bernard]

Lmao, give me one shred of evidence proving systemic racism exists.

Fuck that point, I simply brought up the fact that the people in charge of these movements are marxists. Why turn it into something about systemic racism when that's not even what I brought up?

I imagine if you bring up BLM, systematic racism will come up because that is one of the grievances that BLM seeks to address. Shit, expect stuff about race relations, policing, slavery, the Confederacy, civil rights, etc. If someone were to bring up capitalism, expect people to speak about economics, communism, trade, colonialism, private property, minimum wage, unions, etc. Things don't exist in a vacuum.

[[MPGH]Dave84311]

Lmao, give me one shred of evidence proving systemic racism exists.

Fuck that point, I simply brought up the fact that the people in charge of these movements are marxists. Why turn it into something about systemic racism when that's not even what I brought up?

Go do your research, I'm not going to teach you about something that there is countless resources for. In short, if a man is in a position of power and racist it will impact his decisions over people. America was founded on slavery and racism. Jim Crow was still a part of life until 1965. Do you think racism disappeared?

The President of the United States is vying to become the second President of the Confederacy. "The unhinged left-wing mob is trying to vandalize OUR history, desecrate OUR monuments, OUR beautiful monuments, tear down OUR statues"

Second question was answered by Bernard, nigga you are supposed to be a computer science major and you can't logic?

[Bernard]

so you're saying because the co-founder is a Marxist the whole black lives matters movement is delegitimized

did a black person touch your butt?

Dave is using red text. Of course Dave is trying to defend communism. He's a god damn red. If you like communism so much, go back to Asia.

Edit: After watching the video, am I suppose to believe that Marxism is on a equal level of bad as Nazism because Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot killed a fuck ton of people? "Marxism is the name for a set of political and economic ideas. The core ideas are that the world is divided into classes, the workers and the richer capitalists who exploit the workers, there is a class conflict that should ultimately result in socialism (workers own means of production), and then communism (stateless, classless society)." Where is Marxism advocating for mass killings? I guess you can argue that Marxism argues to eat the rich that exploits workers and that's dangerous thinking? I'm not sold on this whole Marxism is the boogeyman shit.

[Gaydow]

Dave is using red text. Of course Dave is trying to defend communism. He's a god damn red. If you like communism so much, go back to Asia.

Edit: After watching the video, am I suppose to believe that Marxism is on a equal level of bad as Nazism because Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot killed a fuck ton of people? "Marxism is the name for a set of political and economic ideas. The core ideas are that the world is divided into classes, the workers and the richer capitalists who exploit the workers, there is a class conflict that should ultimately result in socialism (workers own means of production), and then communism (stateless, classless society)." Where is Marxism advocating for mass killings? I guess you can argue that Marxism argues to eat the rich that exploits workers and that's dangerous thinking? I'm not sold on this whole Marxism is the boogeyman shit.

Marxism always fails.

I guess you can argue that Marxism argues to eat the rich that exploits workers and that's dangerous thinking

Marxism sounds good on paper until you go back and look at history and all the shit that is going on right now. The problem with humans is that we don't learn from our mistakes, I'm sure all the people who died from communists/socialists regimes would beg to differ with you that Marxism isn't on the same level as everything you mentioned.

Socialism in itself is a retarded concept.

The business owner takes the risk of investing money into equipment, land, and all other costs. If the business succeeds, they get money, if it fails, they lose their money.. Yet, workers should own means of production for simply assembling and taking no risks? LOL.

How many business owners have lost millions and billions from the risks they took to make money? Workers may lose jobs, but they can easily find new ones. This idea that rich people are evil for being smart and making their own money and profiting from the right choices is baffling. Workers get paid for their time, it's the social contract we all agreed on when we decided to take up a job or offer someone a job. Don't like the compensation? Don't take the job. Simple.

Automation would spank socialist ideals right out of the window.

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I imagine if you bring up BLM, systematic racism will come up because that is one of the grievances that BLM seeks to address. Shit, expect stuff about race relations, policing, slavery, the Confederacy, civil rights, etc. If someone were to bring up capitalism, expect people to speak about economics, communism, trade, colonialism, private property, minimum wage, unions, etc. Things don't exist in a vacuum.

In context yes. If you scrolled up and read what I posted, it has nothing to do with me talking about systemic racism. I pointed out that there are "Trained marxists" organizing these events. Conversations work in a linear manner, that's like me bringing up squares when you're talking about triangles when we haven't gotten to talking about squares yet.

[Bernard]

I'm sure all the people who died from communists/socialists regimes would beg to differ with you that Marxism isn't on the same level as everything you mentioned.

The business owner takes the risk of investing money into equipment, land, and all other costs. If the business succeeds, they get money, if it fails, they lose their money.. Yet, workers should own means of production for simply assembling and taking no risks? LOL.

1st part: I mean my father is very pro-Communist party in that he sees them as a necessary evil and that their actions are okay if it improves the lives of the general populace. I had this conversation with my father maybe 2 weeks ago? My grandparents and what not were broke ass Chinese farmers. He's basically like, people were leaving China and coming to America cause it was undoubtedly better here, but in recent decades, the Communist Party has basically revamped China into an economic powerhouse and the standard of living in China has skyrocketed for the most part. Thus, unsurprisingly, a lot of Chinese citizens support their government.

Even in taking World History, you learn that Russia was broke AF and then WW2 happened and they just sent people to the front line with minimal arms cause Russia was just that broke. Then communism happened. Millions upon millions die. USSR. USSR breaks apart. Now Russia is a major super power. Was it worth? Ask the Russians.

Majority of Russians and Chinese support their government and are willing to overlook the horrors that their countries commit because their own standards of living has improved under "communist" rule. For the record, I'm not advocating for communism but don't take me for a staunch supporter of unfettered capitalism as well. And I also don't have numbers to prove that most of them support their government, I'm just under the general impression that they do.

2nd part: The whole business risk thing. Yes individuals take on risk when they start businesses. I'm just under the impression that under socialism (workers own means of production), risk is split among the collective (the workers). You say that they're just assembling stuff, but I'm assuming under socialism, the workers' collective would be running the business instead of 1 or a few individuals. Like to me it's the difference between a company being run by private individuals and a company being run by its workers' union. I see nothing wrong with either system.

[Gaydow]

1st part: I mean my father is very pro-Communist party in that he sees them as a necessary evil and that their actions are okay if it improves the lives of the general populace. I had this conversation with my father maybe 2 weeks ago? My grandparents and what not were broke ass Chinese farmers. He's basically like, people were leaving China and coming to America cause it was undoubtedly better here, but in recent decades, the Communist Party has basically revamped China into an economic powerhouse and the standard of living in China has skyrocketed for the most part. Thus, unsurprisingly, a lot of Chinese citizens support their government.

Even in taking World History, you learn that Russia was broke AF and then WW2 happened and they just sent people to the front line with minimal arms cause Russia was just that broke. Then communism happened. Millions upon millions die. USSR. USSR breaks apart. Now Russia is a major super power. Was it worth? Ask the Russians.

2nd part: The whole business risk thing. Yes individuals take on risk when they start businesses. I'm just under the impression that under socialism (workers own means of production), risk is split among the collective (the workers). You say that they're just assembling stuff, but I'm assuming under socialism, the workers' collective would be running the business instead of 1 or a few individuals. Like to me it's the difference between a company being run by private individuals and a company being run by its workers' union. I see nothing wrong with either system.

Communist Party has basically revamped China into an economic powerhouse

it was undoubtedly better here, but in recent decades, the Communist Party has basically revamped China into an economic powerhouse and the standard of living in China has skyrocketed for the most part. Thus, unsurprisingly, a lot of Chinese citizens support their government.

They've "revamped" by force. Chinese citizens have a fake curtain of "freedom of speech" yet there's no freedom of consequences. You can be picked up and probably be executed by the government for speaking out against them. Quality of life may improve for middle-class Chinese families, yet the Muslims in the detention camps who are being brainwashed by the same communist government are being "cleansed". Asking the chinese or russians if communism was worth it is moot imo.

2nd part: The whole business risk thing. Yes individuals take on risk when they start businesses. I'm just under the impression that under socialism (workers own means of production), risk is split among the collective (the workers). You say that they're just assembling stuff, but I'm assuming under socialism, the workers' collective would be running the business instead of 1 or a few individuals. Like to me it's the difference between a company being run by private individuals and a company being run by its workers' union. I see nothing wrong with either system.

We already have that. A lot of companies have workers unions, we live in a beautiful society where we can choose if we want to work for a company that is unionized or a company that isn't.

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Go do your research, I'm not going to teach you about something that there is countless resources for. In short, if a man is in a position of power and racist it will impact his decisions over people. America was founded on slavery and racism. Jim Crow was still a part of life until 1965. Do you think racism disappeared?

The President of the United States is vying to become the second President of the Confederacy. "The unhinged left-wing mob is trying to vandalize OUR history, desecrate OUR monuments, OUR beautiful monuments, tear down OUR statues"

Second question was answered by Bernard, nigga you are supposed to be a computer science major and you can't logic?

Go do your research, I'm not going to teach you about something that there is countless resources for. In short, if a man is in a position of power and racist it will impact his decisions over people. America was founded on slavery and racism. Jim Crow was still a part of life until 1965. Do you think racism disappeared?

I have done my research, I've yet to find systemic racism embedded in western society. If Jim Crow existed today, that'd be an example of systemic racism, but it was eradicated. Also, I personally don't believe Trump is a racist. What I do think brings out the racists or turns people towards racism is extremists on both sides.

The President of the United States is vying to become the second President of the Confederacy. "The unhinged left-wing mob is trying to vandalize OUR history, desecrate OUR monuments, OUR beautiful monuments, tear down OUR statues"

If you tried to tear down statues in Russia, China or India and their presidents/PM said the same thing, would you refer to them in an equivalent manner? Tearing down statues does nothing but entice people who view it in a similar way to burning books. I could give less of a shit about what the statues represent, but tearing down history when it's a point of reference for humanity is something I'm not for. It automatically polarizes me and a majority of people from sharing a perspective or supporting a cause. Deface the statues, I could care less, but removing or picking out history is extremely stupid. Setting a precedent like that... Yeah well, we know what happened the last time history started being destroyed.

Second question was answered by Bernard, nigga you are supposed to be a computer science major and you can't logic?

Dude. I talked about Marxists, systemic racism wasn't an argument, what I simply said was that I don't want to talk about it because it has nothing to do with BLM co-founders being Marxists. I'm not mixing their viewpoints on marxism with their viewpoints on racism. They are two separate points.

[[MPGH]Jov]

Shadow the statues of confederate leaders where not erected a long time ago, 80%+ of statues where erected in either early 1900s jim crow or in the 60s, those aren't just statues its more of a white mans way of glorifying people while still oppressing a race

[danielporsh912]

Honestly, I'm a middle ground person. I feel like there is a lot of discrimination in the world and greed and corruption and it will always be there because that is just human nature but, I do feel like the system needs a rework as everything is just fucked. There are plenty of stories where people of power did insane shit and got off with a slap on the wrist and then people get life sentences for having a little weed on them back in the day. I don't think destroying our own cities is the way to do it but I do think we need a rework.

[Bernard]

I do think we need a rework.

Lmao a societal balance patch. Update 2.0.

[danielporsh912]

Lmao a societal balance patch. Update 2.0.

Lmfao. Yeah Devs really fucked up on the initial release. So many fucking exploits and shit.