The Qur'ran isn't perfect.

[Empire]

sounds like joseph smith

Damn copycat.

[Alen]

I still haven't heard how you weasel your way out of the question of who created / passed on the Qur'an...?

[Stoney Franklin]

nothing written by the hands of man is perfect
because humanity is imperfect
/end of it

[Alen]

nothing written by the hands of man is perfect
because humanity is imperfect
/end of it

Well supposedly it wasn't created by man?

[Stoney Franklin]

Well supposedly it wasn't created by man?

if it wasn't created by man it wouldn't have been written on man made papyrus and written with man made ink
/nuff said

[iRateIslam]

Hi there ladies and gents.

Mr. IrateMuslim thinks the Qur'an is Perfect. Written by God himself.
I will show you that he is mislead, like millions of others.

My first example will be scientific proof. Irrefutable and not even debatable.

He [i.e. Zul-qarnain] followed, until he reached the setting of the sun. He found it set in a spring of murky water.
(Surah XVIII ( Kahf) vs. 85-86)

To the early Muslims, this surah gave the divine answer as to why darkness fell when the sun set in the West. They assumed that the sun, like the moon, was the size perceived by the human eye, about the size of a basketball. Darkness came when with a mighty hissing roar it went down under the dark waters of a pond. They boldly and proudly proclaimed that this marvelous answer proved that the Qur'an was indeed the Word of God.

So..the sun sets into a pool of water?
Interesting. You would think God, the almighty creator would know otherwise.


[5:116] GOD will say, "O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Make me and my mother idols beside GOD?' " He will say, "Be You glorified. I could not utter what was not right. Had I said it, You already would have known it. You know my thoughts, and I do not know Your thoughts. You know all the secrets.

Really? So it's Father, mother, Holy spirit?
Christians idolize Mary? Nope.


We are first told that Allah came to Muhammad in the form of a man and that Muhammad saw him (Suras 53:2-18, 81:19-24).

Then we are told that it was the "Holy Spirit" who came to Muhammad (Suras 16:102; 26:192-194).

ater on, the Quran says that the angels were the ones who came down to Muhammed (Sura 15:6-8).

The last and most popular version is that it was the angel Gabriel who delivered the Quran to Muhammed (Sura 2:97).

Ok Allah..So which one is it? Who was the Qur'an mail man?
You? The Holy spirit? Angels? Or Gabriel?

Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 clearly say that God created "the heavens and the earth" in six days. But then there is also the following passage:

Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in TWO Days
And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.

He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it,
and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things
to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR Days
in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (Sustenance).

Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky,
and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth:
"Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly."
They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience."

So He completed them as seven firmaments in TWO Days,
and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command.
And We adorned the lower heaven with lights,
and (provided it) with guard.
Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge.
-- Sura 41:9-12 (Yusuf Ali)

altogether these are EIGHT Days.


Hmm 6 days or 8 days of creation Allah?


"Besides Allah you have NO protector nor helper" [ S.2:107, 29:22]

But in Sura 41:31 the angels themselves say:

"We are your protectors in this life and the Hereafter."

Found another boo-boo there Allah.

The Quran says that there is no other judge besides Allah and that he doesn’t allow anyone to share in his decision-making or rule:

Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou (O Muhammad) of the waverers. S. 6:114


But elsewhere in the Quran Muhammad is said to share in Allah’s decisions and judgments:

O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end. S. 4:59


I got plenty more Visible baby.
Open up and say ALLAAAAH

Back from work, and i LoL'ed at this.

First i start with, nice copy and paste ;]

1] The early Muslims believe this is the reason the darkness came? dumbass, So no Muslim saw the sun set in the dessert?
The quran is over 50percent metaphor thus, "sun setting into the water"
=


2]What do catholics idolise? Sit Down son.



3] The so person to deliver the quran was the prophet gabrial pbuh, In islam we do Not believe in 3God like christians.

Allah is 1 and not associated with Jesus or the spirit. the spirit was Prophet gabriel PBUH.

4] Stop copieng and pasting PLEASE.

Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in TWO Days
And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.

He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it,
and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things
to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR Days
in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (Sustenance).

Two days for the earth and two days for the mountains, nourishment ect. both = 4. thus take the two off the "8" u dumbass thought, and make it 6.

whats 2+2=? if u think its 6 ur a dumbass.
2+2 = 4 + 2 = 6

5]
41:30 Lo! those who say: Our Lord is Allah, and afterward are upright, the angels descend upon them, saying: Fear not nor grieve, but hear good tidings of the paradise which ye are promised.

41:31 We are your protecting friends in the life of the world and in the Hereafter. There ye will have (all) that your souls desire, and there ye will have (all) for which ye pray.

41:32 A gift of welcome from One Forgiving, Merciful.

This isn't talking about Allah, u daft fool. this is talking about the Good people on earth who shall see paradise.

6] O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end. S. 4:59

Meaning: Refer to Allah's Quran, and refer to the hadith of the prophet Mohammed.

Not seek help from the prophet. common sense son.

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U have more? more what? self embarressment. bring it son.

[[MPGH]Austin]

THE QU'RAN WAS CREATED BY ALIENS OBVIOUSLY

ALSO HOW DO YOU THINK THE PYRAMIDS WERE MADE?!

[iRateIslam]

THE QU'RAN WAS CREATED BY ALIENS OBVIOUSLY

ALSO HOW DO YOU THINK THE PYRAMIDS WERE MADE?!

People escaping the truth to the point that pointing fingers starts.

Allah gave us the Quran. as guidance. and u people run from it.

Stakhfirallah.

[[MPGH]Austin]

o lawdy ma bad.


lemme go pray for the 5th time today.

[Alen]

o lawdy ma bad.

lemme go pray for the 5th time today.

Atta boy, pray to those aliens of yours. Now ... back to the topic ... who exactly delivered the Qur'an?

[iRateIslam]

o lawdy ma bad.


lemme go pray for the 5th time today.

Not time. and laughing at us for pra'in so much is a good sign to me, because atleast i know im seperated from the ignorance, and joined with the true brothers.

[[MPGH]Austin]

that's pretty hypocritical of you, saying atheists are ignorant then going and saying shit is gonna happen to us because we don't believe in god.

[iRateIslam]

that's pretty hypocritical of you, saying atheists are ignorant then going and saying shit is gonna happen to us because we don't believe in god.

Fucking idiot "seperated from the ignorance" i.e, seperated from fucktards who don't know the meaning of hypocrite.

[Empire]

Fucking idiot "seperated from the ignorance" i.e, seperated from fucktards who don't know the meaning of hypocrite.

:/

You are a hypocrite though, you keep saying your a muslim, but i don't know any muslim who wishes people to go to hell.

-.- public prayer however many times a day only degrades prayer.

Its the same with the pledge of allegiance in american schools. Doing it every day in public just makes it a routine and fake.

[CaT-]

God gave us the bible.