Neo Nazi Fuckers

[RJ]

But you're basically condemning them for their views. Which is basically what "neo nazis" do to others. How does that make you a better person?

[Zen]

so basically your saying that The UN is at the same fault for condeming nazi's as the nazi's are for condeming jews/gays/mentally challenged people/cripples/gypsies/etc?

i am in no right on the same level as the UN but i do believe to stand up for what i believe is wrong.

[RJ]

Fundamentally, yes, that is what I am saying. And you're right you should stand up for what you believe in, but approaching a problem in a hostile manner just creates more hostility. So, where does that get you? No where.

[Zen]

neither does believing that one race is superior to another by their religous beliefs. and most of the "neos" here arent the most open to open discussion. most are immature and flame anything. sometimes hostility is the only way to get thru.

and also you're saying that you'd let the deaths of upwards 6million people go unpunished because its "fundamently" wrong?

a bit off topic,
but i love how this entire subject basically comes outta the graphic department lol

[RJ]

In this in particular situation, the way you go about getting some resolution is all wrong. I don't see them slaughtering droves of people. Although given the chance they probably would (lol). My message is, you shouldn't look down on others for their beliefs. To my knowledge they aren't practicing neo-nazis, so let it go. When they start "slaughtering people in droves" then by all means, flame your little heart out.

[Zen]

slaughterin in droves, or making raciast remarks in public are illegal. I would be going about it all wrong if the group i was talking to wasnt closed minded and on MPGH (honestly we're all usually tough to deal w/ on here). I enjoy an intellectual debate, and prefer it honestly.

[RJ]

making raciast remarks in public are illegal.

This statement is untrue. You are obviously aware that they will not waiver in their opinions, so why flame about it? I get that you disagree with them, but what is it your expecting to do? Are you trying to make them stop expressing themselves? You should know what you're doing you will have the opposite effect.

[BPK]

making raciast remarks in public are illegal.

Freedom of speech.

Ever heard of it?

[Empire]

hmm an actual argument wow, didn't think this was possible......

[[MPGH]Liz]

still you have to admit, some of them are straight hypocrites, not even white, and yet they line up for this, I understand freedom of speech, but like all the other "rights" they are really just privileges, at any time the government can take them away, and what will we do then, adjust or rise in revolt, and this day in age, and angry letter to congress and petitions its all you'll get. We as a species have begun thinking and processing so much, that physical expression have become nill. lets debate about it, lets argue about it, if only it was this way back in 1932 this would be a very different world.

[Zen]

not freedom of speech. hate crimes.

And for the "neos" out there, imagine ur self in a concentration camp. what happens if it had been reversed. we're all humans and shouldnt be degraded as such. same happened all over the world on a lesser scale.

[RJ]

Yelling racist names is not a hate crime.

[Zen]

-Raciast names
-Calling some one a homo
-Calling themRednecks (my friend got a misdameanor for this....albeit hes black sooolol)
-Putting up nooses.

we are as free as people are led to believe.

[RJ]

You're telling me someone was put through a legal process for calling someone a redneck? I think you're making it up.

[Zen]

No bull, me and daquawn were skating downtown and some redneck we know from school pushed him in a starbucks, daquawn walked outta the shop and redneck followed him annoying him, until d turned around and shouted "shut up you dumbass redneck no one gives a fuck" and the cop standing about 10 feet away come over, i bolted because i had two grams on me.