God...

[[MPGH]Toxin]

You guys are off topic....
Gods real in some form or fashion.

[ratchetnclank]

God, can steal beer and drugs? If I can.. give no sign..

ah thanks

[Paroxysm]

God Is real you can trust me on that one, Reason? a miracle happend to me.

Anecdotal evidence isn't trusted anymore then hear-say. Hard physical-evidence or gtfo, is how it works in the scientific arena.

[(G)rapefruit]

I CAN EXPLAIN ALL MIRACLES!

Plain luck...

[Paroxysm]

I vote yes, that there IS a GOD, since I'm a Protestant.

It's true that institutionalized religion has been used for manipulating
the masses or squeezing out money in both the past (for example, the corrupt Estate system of the Ancien Regime!) and in the present, but I don't think one can so easily abhor religion due to that fact.
I have observed some troubling conflict within the church and between some
other Christian friends, however, we are all still imperfect humans.
There are some views that Jesus died so that we may have good and healthy lives, but many Christians don't believe in that. I once saw a few minutes of
a show expressing such a view, saying that Christians have the right to be
greater and such over non-believers and reign over them. I reject this as well.
There are many branches of Christianity, so it's hard to gift-wrap it under the
umbrella term "Christianity". Catholicism and Protestantism are very different, and there are other sects such as the Jehovah's Witnesses (which are considered by some to be heretics).
However, it seems as if it is too troublesome to argue for or against a religion or religions, and the term "religion" already arouses such controversy. I like to think along the lines of William James, whose opinion is that "our passional nature not only lawfully may, but must, decide ... between propositions, wherever it is a genuine option that cannot by its nature be decided on intellectual grounds...". Sometimes faith and some local evangelism will be enough for someone like me, but who knows what God has in store. "The world says to trust myself. Myself says to trust in Jesus".
Not going to force my view, though.

Also, I've heard of an interesting idea against evolution:
If Darwin believed in the survival of the fittest and
--assuming that humans have evolved from apes--
how did such a strong emohttps://www.mpgh.net/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=760664tion as love come about?
"Love", at least in a shallow way, is quite common
in the pop music culture these days.
It's easy to tear up to torn romance.
In a natural world where some animal parents do not rear
their offspring with too much care,
or even eat their offspring,
how did this powerful emotion come about?

Just tossing an idea out,
sorry if anyone is offended.

: )

I regret to inform you, that argument is extremely weak. "Love" evolved as a survival mechanism for species, other animals protect their young to the death, if that isn't love I don't know what is. I don't see why I even bother arguing for evolution, it's been accepted by a majority of biologists since the 1870's and the scientific debates stopped in the early 1900's. The only people left arguing are a few religious -zealots who see evolution is in contradiction with their sacred book(s).

[Dead Bones Brook]

wrong section, should be in debate

Say that 10 pages earlier next time damn it.

[CaT-]

This should've been in debate from the start

[Paroxysm]

Only three people visit the debate section.

[CaT-]

I visit debate section....

[Paroxysm]

Fine 3 and 2/3 people visit the debate section.

[CaT-]

That hurts paro When i'm in debate i'm a completely different person than on general.

[Paroxysm]

Ok I'm sorry, you better thank good ol' Abe for the Emancipation Proc.

[CaT-]

YOu can't he's dead :-/

[ratchetnclank]

Its not hard