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    -.- those who say we should give up on faith because it imposes principles, we could be helping the poor, and it doesn't really matter are the one's who aren't worth arguing with.


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    That's funny i don't recall saying give up faith, but rather live by your own principles and make your own choices rather then have everything played out for you.

    That seem's to be a very ignorant statement, so tell me why are people who think we should spend time helping those less fortunate then us, rather then fighting over who's belief is right not worth arguing?

    Or is it just because you cant argue with it?

    It is simply a matter of seeing beyond yourself.

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    O.o are you helping the poor, right this minute? as you type?. think about that.

    Religion doesn't have everything played out for you. I don't think you get that. Its not a set of rules like the government, if you see religion as that then its pointless to argue.

    -.- the fact that most religions encourage helping the poor and so on is obvoiusly something you overlook, in fact i can guarantee you that most ppl who work in homeless shelters, who help the poor in a foreign country, have a religion.
    O.o whatchooo talkin about willis?


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    No, i am not sadly at the moment i have neither the power nor money or any means of doing so, and as much as it pains me to admit that i realize it fully.

    However, have you ever ONCE helped a homeless person? or someone in distress?

    Of that i can be certain i have done, and will do all that i can to help anyone i possibly can.

    Moreover, the government isn't a set of rules, That's called law.
    But i follow my own set of rules it's called, common sense.

    Encouraging help, is never and will never be the same as giving it.A church that doesn't donate everything it can to helping those in need, rather than promoting and projecting it's beliefs onto other's isn't worth the time of building.

    Most of them will also tell you this, that they have to believe, that belief keeps them sane when everything is so wrong, such as horrifically indescribable event's take place, they need that belief to keep going.

    Could you contemplate that our actions are ours and ours alone? Genocide, Starvation, Homelessness, Slavery, Abuse, Rape, the list keeps going.

    It's the easy path to turn away, it's the hardest to deal with it.

    And that's not saying you shouldn't have a religion, Every man/woman's belief is his/her own, rather what im saying is don't use it as a scapegoat.

    And then to fight who's belief is right, or kill because of that? That is just contradictory of itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
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    Jesus Loves You




    Calling all Muslims (or anyone else who wishes) to debate about the religion of Islam.

    Now, I'm not a racist towards Muslims. This is not racism.

    This is not a debate about Islam. This is a debate about Muhammad. By the way, I'm a Christian.

    Muhammad, who Muslims consider the "Seal of Prophets" and the greatest of all prophets, did not live a moral life as Muslims suggest. Here are some facts about his life:

    1) Muhammad: Had eleven wives at once.

    2) Muhammad: Murdered 600-900 innocent and unarmed people.

    3) Muhammad: Traded in slaves.

    4) Muhammad: Robbed Meccan caravans.

    5) Muhammad: Raped women.

    6) Muhammad: Tortured people.

    7) Muhammad: Kept concubines for sex.

    8) Muhammad: Beat his wife.

    9) Muhammad: Ordered the deaths of those who left Islam.

    10) Muhammad: Was a pedophile because he had sex with a 9 year old girl.

    I have much more evidence to back up my claim about Islam, but I'm going to leave them out of this round.







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    Our Policy Against The Unsaved is Based on Scripture!
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    As most churches liberalize or modernicate themselves they in turn reject the commandments written by God in the Holy Bible. The Landover Baptist Church continues to do exactly what scripture teaches every Christian to do. And that is to keep the temple of the living God a clean vessel, untarnished by even a hint of fellowship with the unrighteous!

    "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."
    ~ 2 John 1:9-11

    "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."
    ~ 2 Corinthians 6:14-17

    We pray that God sends his Holy Spirit upon this Christian Nation and opens up the hearts of other Bible believing Christians so that they will adopt the same Bible-based policy that has kept our church strong for nearly 217 Godly years. For a list of common-sense reasons for keeping unsaved people out of your church click here.

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    All authority at Landover Baptist (and surrounding properties) is granted to Pastor Deacon Fred Smith. This is in full accordance with Romans 13. If you are not familiar with Romans 13, well then we suggest you read it. A good ten or twelve readings of Leviticus wouldn't hurt either. Our pastor sometimes uses his godly authority to invoke the Lord's Law from the Bible in Leviticus. This is sometimes too much for some folks. If they refuse punishment, then they have the option of paying a $500.00 fine plus expenses accrued by the planning committee of Levitical Law Implementation. If you haven't cracked a Bible in a few years... then Landover is not for you.

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    1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and
    massacred by:
    a) Olga Korbut
    b) Sitting Bull
    c) Arnold Schwartzeneger
    d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    02. In 1979, the U. S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
    a) Lost Norwegians
    b) Elvis
    c) A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
    d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    03. During the 1980's, a number of Americans were kidnapped in
    Lebanon by:
    a) John Dillinger
    b) The King of Sweden
    c) The Boy Scouts
    d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    04. In 1983, the U. S. Marine barracks in Beirut were blown up by:
    a) A pizza delivery boy
    b) Pee Wee Herman
    c) Geraldo Rivera
    d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    05. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a
    70-year-old
    American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by:
    a) The Smurfs
    b) Davey Jones
    c) The Little Mermaid
    d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    06. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens and a US Navy
    diver was murdered by:
    a) Captain Kidd
    b) Charles Lindberg
    c) Mother Teresa
    d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    07. In 1988, Pan Am flight 103 was bombed by:
    a) Scooby Doo
    b) The Tooth Fairy
    c) Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
    d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    08. In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
    a) Richard Simmons
    b) Grandma Moses
    c) Michael Jordan
    d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    09. In 1998, the U. S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
    a) Mr. Rogers
    b) Mutt and Jeff
    c) The World Wrestling Federation
    d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 50

    10. On 9-11--01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed and
    thousands of people were killed by:
    a) Bugs Bunny
    b) The Supreme Court of Florida
    c) Mr. Bean
    d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    11. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
    a) Bonnie and Clyde
    b) Captain Kangaroo
    c) Billy Graham
    d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.








    After all this, it is very clear that Christianity is the way to go.





    Just look at this guy, how could he NOT be the son of God?
    Anybody looks sweet with a baby animal in there arms. I = ATHEIST.

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    i find it funny how u call jesus the son of god and he just happens to die. i tought a god lived forever i mean seriously if hes god and loved u as much as u think, we would all be in heaven, right.

    And who gave u the right to say that this is the true faith. get ur facts straight man, god dont have kids. They made the parts that bring forth a child. God creates creation so bow down to what is really true, ALLAH


    what can i say

    Respect Islam and i shall respect u, no matter how much i hate u. I am muslim 4lyf


    I dont need a bullet proof vest cause i got Allah tattooed to my chest.

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    i like guys who are religious and take do their job seriously as a Christian. Faith is very strong.

    Luke 17:6

    He replied, "If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, 'Be uprooted and planted in the sea,' and it will obey you.
    NIV
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    Quote Originally Posted by unnamed101 View Post
    No, i am not sadly at the moment i have neither the power nor money or any means of doing so, and as much as it pains me to admit that i realize it fully.

    However, have you ever ONCE helped a homeless person? or someone in distress?

    Of that i can be certain i have done, and will do all that i can to help anyone i possibly can.

    Moreover, the government isn't a set of rules, That's called law.
    But i follow my own set of rules it's called, common sense.

    Encouraging help, is never and will never be the same as giving it.A church that doesn't donate everything it can to helping those in need, rather than promoting and projecting it's beliefs onto other's isn't worth the time of building.

    Most of them will also tell you this, that they have to believe, that belief keeps them sane when everything is so wrong, such as horrifically indescribable event's take place, they need that belief to keep going.

    Could you contemplate that our actions are ours and ours alone? Genocide, Starvation, Homelessness, Slavery, Abuse, Rape, the list keeps going.

    It's the easy path to turn away, it's the hardest to deal with it.

    And that's not saying you shouldn't have a religion, Every man/woman's belief is his/her own, rather what im saying is don't use it as a scapegoat.

    And then to fight who's belief is right, or kill because of that? That is just contradictory of itself.
    1. Helping people isn't for bragging rights fool.
    2. I never said any action was not yours and yours alone.
    3. No one is talking about scapegoats, wtf. If your thinking ppl use it as a scapegoat, maybe. But thats not the point i made nor anyone else on this thread i believe.
    4. People have been killed over a lot less, doesn't make it right, but it makes you realize how fast you could be gone.

    Dakguy: What you think of God doesn't have to be what God is. This is basic logic that can be applied to anything. I'm not saying christianity is the "true" religion, i'm merely stating my opinion.

    God don't have kids? Says who?............again, what you think doesn't mean it has to be that.


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    I never bragged about anything, i asked you a question for you to reflect upon for yourself.

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    gah, why even waste my time. you pull this argument out and they just pay attention to one thing.

    you know what, forget i said anything, if you can't read more than the first sentence its fine. i'm done with this.


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    This is exactly why I'm agnostic. I can agree completely with unnamed101. I was brought up in Catholic school grades Pre-k Through freshman year of highschool, and the whole time, it didn't even phase me. My household was "Catholic", but i was also brought up to make decisions for myself. I have lived by one rule, if it makes you happy, and doesn't hurt anyone, go for it. I'm not going to let the rules of some being that I can't see or feel no reprecussions from stop me. A child's mind is the greatest form of building materials we have. If they are subjected to complete devotion to a book that tells them if they don't follow its rules they will burn, they will most certainly follow it. Plain and simple: Religion is the oldest and most time proven form of mind control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    gah, why even waste my time. you pull this argument out and they just pay attention to one thing.

    you know what, forget i said anything, if you can't read more than the first sentence its fine. i'm done with this.
    You would rather turn a blind eye and accept something that suits you then see reality.(that's not to say a religion is false or correct.)

    ignorance and escapism, how quaint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoorOfPain View Post
    Plain and simple: Religion is the oldest and most time proven form of mind control.
    You just nailed it right there, it was always a way to keep (and have) control over every one (possible), it's easy. This world, with every passing minute, gets more and more depressed. Economy is falling, more people become helpless and more people become colder and colder to the situation (until it hits them, how common this is ). So those who become helpless, wild hold to anything that helps them pass the hard times, wetter it be a friend (a group of friends) or a religious community (in this case, Islam, Christianity. Judaism or any other religion). Simple as that... Faith in ONE self, respect, loyalty and honesty is what this world is missing (and most of US don't care about this, as long as we live our life and have everything we need, even if it comes to stepping on some one just so you could have that "thing"). The North american market lives by only one rule "It's a dog eat dog world (aka Only the strong survive)"
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