I'm interested in getting into private server development in the future, but...

[chargn_yeti]

Would've said more in the title but, ya know, character limit. What I mean to say is that I'd like to get into private server development in the future, but before I do that, I'd like to do a bit of coding on my own, using existing sources. What I'm wondering is, what tools do I need, and do any of you crazy-good developers have any serious tips for a beginner? Here's what I have in regards to experience and tools I currently have downloaded, as well as the sources I have to work with.

Tools I have:
HeidiSQL
SharpDevelop 4.4
Yogda
XAMPP
RABCDAsm

Sources I have downloaded:
Club559
MMO Source (same as Club?)
Doomed Realms
Fabiano's "Swagger of Doom"
Phoenix Realms 1.9.2

I have basic knowledge in terms of coding. I've played a bit with the code in MMOE a long time ago, and I've taken a class on Visual Basic, as well as HTML. Obviously that's not saying much because every language is different, but I do have basic knowledge.

I do not intend to ever abuse any of the sources I have in my possession, I only want to learn from them and use them to further my knowledge and maybe one day become a developer for one of the awesome private servers that exist at the moment, like Nilly's. Or maybe make custom behaviors for new things.

So, what this post boils down to, is, a couple of things. First off, I was wondering what software I need for map creation/editing. Same with sprite editing and creation - how does that work? Is it a simple PNG image injection into the server files?
And also, what programs am I missing that are essential? I tried downloading Visual Studio express 2013, but it required me to buy some license (because I used my trial up a while back to work with MMOE's source). Are there any other versions of Visual Studio that are obtainable without me having to go through the painful process of registering for a paid license or stuff like that? Or do I not even need a Visual Studio?

Next, to the creators of these private server sources that I'm using, is it okay if I use your sources to further my understanding?

Lastly, to those such as Nilly or Botmaker, do you as developers have any tips for me in regards to learning this stuff?

Also, I have looked through the stickied posts and I've looked at just about every tutorial out there already to help myself learn, but I could never find anything good in regards to my questions here, unless I missed them. In which case, I'm very sorry. I looked very hard AND used the search function.

Thank you in advance if you choose to reply. Thank you so much.

[Nyaro]

Its better if you have Visual Studio..
If u want to release a server
i would use Phoenix, Fabs, SD or creepylava source
Phoenix: Has lots of stuff , you dont need to fix much
Fabs: If u want a prod server
SD: Its something special nice features etc
creepylava: U start from 0 and make your own source :P

[~V~]

The best way to learn programming languages in my opinion is to try new things.Try to delete line, compile and see what you done, if you don't like it undo that and try something else.

[chargn_yeti]

Right! This is why I downloaded all of the sources. Thank you for replying!

Nyaro, based on your reply, I'm either gonna work with phoenix or fabs to learn the basics of the code of realm. Thanks for replying man! I really appreciate it.

[crusadorzach]

Only thing I know about is sprite making... One way you can go about using sprites you make is using the realmofthemadgod(dot)com/draw(dot)html tool! Once you have made a sprite on rotmg draw, you can search it using the tag you set it as in the "texture grabber" (should be somewhere in your source files if you open it with sharp develop, just click build on it and it should open). After you search the tag of your sprite, there will be a remote texture ID at the side of whatever you made, just be sure that you tell the item/entty codes that you are putting in a remote texture using: <remoteTexture>
<Instance>draw</Instance>
<Id>(ID you found using grabber)</Id>
</RemoteTexture>

Just put that on the same line you see it on other items in your source and you should be good for adding new items/entities




Only problem with remote textures is that they can cause a bit of lag for users as each time soeone joins a world they have to reload all of the remote textures again... So, use with moderation, I guess...

The other way would be using textures from your source by adding them in (but idk how to do that D




Hope I helped

[chargn_yeti]

Only thing I know about is sprite making... One way you can go about using sprites you make is using the realmofthemadgod(dot)com/draw(dot)html tool! Once you have made a sprite on rotmg draw, you can search it using the tag you set it as in the "texture grabber" (should be somewhere in your source files if you open it with sharp develop, just click build on it and it should open). After you search the tag of your sprite, there will be a remote texture ID at the side of whatever you made, just be sure that you tell the item/entty codes that you are putting in a remote texture using: <remoteTexture>
<Instance>draw</Instance>
<Id>(ID you found using grabber)</Id>
</RemoteTexture>

Just put that on the same line you see it on other items in your source and you should be good for adding new items/entities




Only problem with remote textures is that they can cause a bit of lag for users as each time soeone joins a world they have to reload all of the remote textures again... So, use with moderation, I guess...

The other way would be using textures from your source by adding them in (but idk how to do that D




Hope I helped

Thank you for replying, man! I appreciate it! I didn't know that remote hosting images like that for sprites was possible. I don't intend on doing it that way because I'm not going to be running my server for public use (I will let my brother on it AT THE MOST) but I think that method is really interesting and I really appreciate you walking me through how to use it. It'll help me in the future, I'm sure. Thank you so much.

[crusadorzach]

Thank you for replying, man! I appreciate it! I didn't know that remote hosting images like that for sprites was possible. I don't intend on doing it that way because I'm not going to be running my server for public use (I will let my brother on it AT THE MOST) but I think that method is really interesting and I really appreciate you walking me through how to use it. It'll help me in the future, I'm sure. Thank you so much.

Thanks for the thanks, glad I could help

[chargn_yeti]

Its better if you have Visual Studio..

i would use Phoenix, Fabs, SD or creepylava source

SD: Its something special nice features etc

Hey, I was wondering, after thinking about your post a bit more, I don't have SD, which I assume is Seraph's Dominion. I couldn't find a decent download for it though, could you point me in the right direction? The only one I could find was fragmented and looked like it had countless errors based on comments in the thread. Thanks again for your post by the way.

[Yin Yang]

Hey, I was wondering, after thinking about your post a bit more, I don't have SD, which I assume is Seraph's Dominion. I couldn't find a decent download for it though, could you point me in the right direction? The only one I could find was fragmented and looked like it had countless errors based on comments in the thread. Thanks again for your post by the way.

Client Source
Server Source

Both must be downloaded, obviously. One is client, one is server.
Want a tut on how to set up the client and server?
How to set up Seraph's Dominion

 

Visual Studio / Sharp Develop
IntelliJ
Yogda/Rabcdasm & Notepad++
XaMPP (Recommended) or Workbench

Pretty sure that's all.

[chargn_yeti]

Both must be downloaded, obviously. One is client, one is server.
Want a tut on how to set up the client and server?

 

Visual Studio / Sharp Develop
IntelliJ
Yogda/Rabcdasm & Notepad++
XaMPP (Recommended) or Workbench

Pretty sure that's all.

Thank you, this was really helpful. I just downloaded IntelliJ and the client/server. I think I'll play with that after I get Phoenix up and running on localhost.

[Nyaro]

Client Source
Server Source

Both must be downloaded, obviously. One is client, one is server.
Want a tut on how to set up the client and server?
How to set up Seraph's Dominion

 

Visual Studio / Sharp Develop
IntelliJ
Yogda/Rabcdasm & Notepad++
XaMPP (Recommended) or Workbench

Pretty sure that's all.

Thanks my nigga
you was faster than me

[chargn_yeti]

So, I got both Fabiano's and Phoenix 1.9.2 up and running. I haven't messed with the rest. I plan on doing some editing tonight, but I'm a little unclear on something... When I edit, let's say, the price of something in the shop in the nexus in Phoenix. Let's say I change the price of something from 10 fame to 100 gold. Do I just save the file/xml/whatever it is, or do I have to rebuild and build the server.sln again? Or is saving the file sufficient? Like, would the change carry over to the client with just a save?

[hydranoid800]

So, I got both Fabiano's and Phoenix 1.9.2 up and running. I haven't messed with the rest. I plan on doing some editing tonight, but I'm a little unclear on something... When I edit, let's say, the price of something in the shop in the nexus in Phoenix. Let's say I change the price of something from 10 fame to 100 gold. Do I just save the file/xml/whatever it is, or do I have to rebuild and build the server.sln again? Or is saving the file sufficient? Like, would the change carry over to the client with just a save?

Well, if you're editing in MerchantLists.cs, yea you gotta rebuild. be more specific >.<

[chargn_yeti]

Well, if you're editing in MerchantLists.cs, yea you gotta rebuild. be more specific >.<

I'm sorry!
I'm new to all of this. I'll try to be more specific in the future.

Should I just play it cautious and rebuild for every change I make?

[hydranoid800]

Just be mindful of previous drunken edits you may or may not make

And no, just do it once you're all done and vis studio/sharp develop will help you solve any errors you might have