[Share] Head First Java - Second Edition.

[Jason]

oh, you guys learn programming at school, we at our shitty country don't . Well it's a kewl country, but without any kind of developing ways...I mean in 5 computers engeeners only 3 knows how to program.

I didn't learn it in school there were no programming courses in my school.

[Hell_Demon]

I'm unable to get the UI editor to work, nothing I add shows up, and hardcoding it is a basterd =3

[Jason]

I'm unable to get the UI editor to work, nothing I add shows up, and hardcoding it is a basterd =3

You using the XML UI harcoding? I tried that in WPF and ragequit.

[♪~ ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ]

I didn't learn it in school there were no programming courses in my school.

Uni, school, college, you know what I mma talking about...

[Jason]

Uni, school, college, you know what I mma talking about...

Not really. Surely one university in your country teaches a Computer Science degree...

['Bruno]

@NextGen1

Meh, i have been playing around with webservice consuming at android using Ksoap lib, haven't really seen many bugs yet at android sdk tbh. When i said "easy", i meant to say that compared to iPhone development, its way easier to start with and learn. (At their "main" development languages). But really, i tried Cocoa a few times and i really rage quitted. With android, i just followed a few tuts about its main structure and with programming background i was good to go and start to make my own stuff.

Yea ofc its easy... when you are not dealing with a crap language.

[NextGen1]

@Brinuz ,

There are many noticeable issues with the SDK, you just haven't hit them yet or are not deep enough. I am proficient in JAVA, and these issues are bugs with the SDK
Using a device Or Emu?
Many issues when using a device, many issues with XML parsing (because of entity &amp vs Ampersand) Many issues with adb and older sdk version. Just to mention a few things.

Ksoap lib really wouldn't kick back any SDK bugs, it is not part of the SDK , So really doesn't play a factor, you use it because Google doesn't really offer a solution yet.

Give it time, you will be cursing it out, try writing live wallpaper, or a parsing application.
Try writing a portal for a POS system or some extensive application.

You will throw your keyboard at least once, and rage once every few days.

['Bruno]

@Brinuz ,

There are many noticeable issues with the SDK, you just haven't hit them yet or are not deep enough. I am proficient in JAVA, and these issues are bugs with the SDK
Using a device Or Emu?
Many issues when using a device, many issues with XML parsing (because of entity &amp vs Ampersand) Many issues with adb and older sdk version. Just to mention a few things.

Ksoap lib really wouldn't kick back any SDK bugs, it is not part of the SDK , So really doesn't play a factor, you use it because Google doesn't really offer a solution yet.

Give it time, you will be cursing it out, try writing live wallpaper, or a parsing application.
Try writing a portal for a POS system or some extensive application.

You will throw your keyboard at least once, and rage once every few days.

Yup i believe in that. I mentioned Ksoap lib because of exactly that (not part of the sdk).
I have been using the Emu "from" Eclipse tho. Tested only 2 applications at the device atm. I just need time to start using the sdk more often and find some bugs

[NextGen1]

I just need time to start using the sdk more often and find some bugs

Yeah, Exactly