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    Quote Originally Posted by 258456 View Post
    Ya i totally miss the programming section. You guys are basically the people that drove me to explore new areas of programming like hacking, irc, winsock and such. It was an exciting time but honestly, as you guys keep saying, there isn't anything exciting going on. There aren't people who are actually inquiring about an honest error in THEIR OWN code. Now it's just copy and pasters who come over to ask where they should put their semicolons or people who code "hack bases" and don't understand that they must put an end-quote (") when they open quotes. Even then, you probably shouldn't have strings in your "hack" so it isn't easy to figure out what you are doing when people attempt to decompile your dll.

    So i guess this whole rant was me trying to say, I miss you guys haha. @Hassan @Void @Virtual Void @why06 @Hell_Demon @Blubb1337 @B1ackAnge1 @zeco @258456 @Jetamay @freedompeace @Melodia @Alen @Gab @.::SCHiM::. @'Bruno @Arhk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy S. Anderson
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    You can win the rat race,
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    I am non-existent, like air and radio waves.

    I do wish there were less leechers and such, but whatever.

    I don't know what anybody is doing now, but I'm still programming my 16-bit assembly. I'm missing C and C++ a little. (not saying atoi is hard to implement in assembly, I'm just saying that I'd much rather take 30 seconds in C ), but it's all a learning experience that builds character amirite.

    I tried learning other languages: C#, python, perl, but I always give up and come running back to C/++

    Starting computer science (java) next school year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Void View Post
    I am non-existent, like air and radio waves.

    I do wish there were less leechers and such, but whatever.

    I don't know what anybody is doing now, but I'm still programming my 16-bit assembly. I'm missing C and C++ a little. (not saying atoi is hard to implement in assembly, I'm just saying that I'd much rather take 30 seconds in C ), but it's all a learning experience that builds character amirite.

    I tried learning other languages: C#, python, perl, but I always give up and come running back to C/++

    Starting computer science (java) next school year.
    Atoi isn't too bad, depends if you support multiple bases :3

    C/C++ are pretty rad, I find myself coding in C++ quite often recently. Still love C# and PHP though, sometimes they're just plain better

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    You can win the rat race,
    But you're still nothing but a fucking RAT.


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    Probably possible in Java.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post


    Atoi isn't too bad, depends if you support multiple bases :3

    C/C++ are pretty rad, I find myself coding in C++ quite often recently. Still love C# and PHP though, sometimes they're just plain better
    I don't know what kind of herbs the people who created ASCII were smoking, but they should have put numbers and letters next to eachother, would make life much easier. I mean, who in their right mind would put 7 random symbols between numbers and the alphabet. If they were next to eachother, 'F' would be 3F, subtract 30 and you get F, so simple. But instead you get to check if the number was above 9, so then you subtract/add an additional 7 etc etc depending if it's atoi or itoa

    Or maybe there is something i'm not getting
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    I will never understand pointers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Void View Post


    I don't know what kind of herbs the people who created ASCII were smoking, but they should have put numbers and letters next to eachother, would make life much easier. I mean, who in their right mind would put 7 random symbols between numbers and the alphabet. If they were next to eachother, 'F' would be 3F, subtract 30 and you get F, so simple. But instead you get to check if the number was above 9, so then you subtract/add an additional 7 etc etc depending if it's atoi or itoa

    Or maybe there is something i'm not getting
    Lal, check out Microsoft's code:

    https://i.imgur.com/aZ1VmpN.png

    Fun fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy S. Anderson
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    You can win the rat race,
    But you're still nothing but a fucking RAT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgiiStylz View Post
    I will never understand pointers
    You can do anything if you put your mind to it

    They aren't too difficult. A pointer points to a place in memory, so you can grab the value from the memory location.

    For example.

    char* string = "hello";

    Will reserve memory to hold all the characters.
    so then

    string[0] will point to the first character in the string, or to the first place in memory where the string is place. then string[1] will just point to the next character, which is adjacent in memory.

    Or something in assembly

    Code:
    xor bx, bx                                ;This is setting bx to 0. Then we make fs also 0 by moving bx (0) into it.
    mov fs, bx                                
    mov al, byte[fs:bx]                  ; This will put whatever is in memory at fs:bx (0000:0000) into the al register.
    mov bx, 0xFFFF                      ;  This is now setting bx to be FFFF in value (in hexadecimal)
    mov al, byte[fs:bx]                  ; Now, we are moving the value that fs:bx is pointing to. (0000:FFFF) We aren't putting fs:bx into it, but the value it is pointing to.
    For sake of simplicity, just think that pointers are not values themselves, but point to one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post


    Lal, check out Microsoft's code:

    https://i.imgur.com/aZ1VmpN.png

    Fun fun.
    Luls, assuming we are only converting a single digit which is not often

    Either way, i'm pretty sure my procedure would make assembly programmers around the globe cry, but at least it works
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Void View Post
    You can do anything if you put your mind to it

    They aren't too difficult. A pointer points to a place in memory, so you can grab the value from the memory location.

    For example.

    char* string = "hello";

    Will reserve memory to hold all the characters.
    so then

    string[0] will point to the first character in the string, or to the first place in memory where the string is place. then string[1] will just point to the next character, which is adjacent in memory.

    Or something in assembly

    Code:
    xor bx, bx ;This is setting bx to 0. Then we make fs also 0 by moving bx (0) into it.
    mov fs, bx
    mov al, byte[fs:bx] ; This will put whatever is in memory at fs:bx (0000:0000) into the al register.
    mov bx, 0xFFFF ; This is now setting bx to be FFFF in value (in hexadecimal)
    mov al, byte[fs:bx] ; Now, we are moving the value that fs:bx is pointing to. (0000:FFFF) We aren't putting fs:bx into it, but the value it is pointing to.
    For sake of simplicity, just think that pointers are not values themselves, but point to one.
    I have a headache now I'll stick to the simple stuff
    Advance programming isn't for me

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    If you ever want to mess with them, send me a pm I'm not an expert, but I can try to explain a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abuckau907 View Post
    If you ever want to mess with them, send me a pm I'm not an expert, but I can try to explain a little.
    I don't plan to

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgiiStylz View Post

    I don't plan to
    Why not

    Pointers are so fun, and once you understand them, your programming world can expand.
    Pointers are needed in low level programming, and just warding off anything to do with pointers is like kicking yourself in the foot and narrowing your horizons

    Here are some uses for pointers: Dealing with C-style strings, writing to video memory, moving memory from one place to another, dumping memory contents, debugging programs, game programming, and the list goes on.

    They aren't that hard, you just have to try, and practice of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Void View Post


    Why not

    Pointers are so fun, and once you understand them, your programming world can expand.
    Pointers are needed in low level programming, and just warding off anything to do with pointers is like kicking yourself in the foot and narrowing your horizons

    Here are some uses for pointers: Dealing with C-style strings, writing to video memory, moving memory from one place to another, dumping memory contents, debugging programs, game programming, and the list goes on.

    They aren't that hard, you just have to try, and practice of course
    And understanding the logic behind pointers helps you to better understand higher-level languages like C#/Java. There may not be explicit pointers (with the exception of the "unsafe" context in C#), but it's fundamental to understanding the differences between reference and value types and why things act the way they do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy S. Anderson
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    But you're still nothing but a fucking RAT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Void View Post


    Why not

    Pointers are so fun, and once you understand them, your programming world can expand.
    Pointers are needed in low level programming, and just warding off anything to do with pointers is like kicking yourself in the foot and narrowing your horizons

    Here are some uses for pointers: Dealing with C-style strings, writing to video memory, moving memory from one place to another, dumping memory contents, debugging programs, game programming, and the list goes on.

    They aren't that hard, you just have to try, and practice of course
    I just haven't thought of anything to program that have to do with pointers. If someone gave me an idea to make, then I'd go after it
    If it'll be about pointers, then I need to understand more about it before I attempt it

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgiiStylz View Post

    I just haven't thought of anything to program that have to do with pointers. If someone gave me an idea to make, then I'd go after it
    If it'll be about pointers, then I need to understand more about it before I attempt it
    If you're writing in a high level language like C#/VB, you won't be using pointers (except in rare circumstances in C#), which is why you've never had the need to use them. Try writing an application in C or C++ and you'll quickly find there's no reasonable way to achieve what you want without getting your hands dirty with pointers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy S. Anderson
    There are only two things to come out of Berkley, Unix and LSD,
    and I don’t think this is a coincidence
    You can win the rat race,
    But you're still nothing but a fucking RAT.


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