What do you mean bad ? If you mean bad as of hard, then that's no problem for me. I've come across plenty of ways to hack with java, there are even plenty of libraries. Using C++ simply because it's easier takes the fun and creativity away, at least for me. And yes if I decide to make something "hardcore" I would use C++, but I never said I am making something "hardcore". I am just fooling around with java and finding alternate ways of doing stuff. Plus it helps get a better understanding of the language itself. And please stop giving me C++ snippets as if I am an idiot, its insulting...