Perma ability

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Perma ability
I searched a few articles about perma ability.But each of them have different pet level,so what you guys think of the lv. required for perma ability on different class?
You can figure this out using maths:

Helm: A T6 Helm requires 85MP / 6.5s, or 13.08MP/s. you can get that in pets with lvl 77
Seal: A T6 Seal requires 90MP / ~5s, or 18MP/s. you can get that in pets with lvl 83
Shuriken: Keeping the speedy buff requires 10MP/s, you can get that in pets with lvl 73
Shield: Permastunning with T6 requires 100MP/3s, or 33.33MP/s, you can ONLY get that in pets with lvl 96
or you can use Spiteful (22.5MP/s), which needs pets with lvl 89
Cloak: T6 requires the same as the Helm.
Quiver: Permapara is 75MP/3s, or 25MP/s. you can get that in pets with lvl 92
Tome: PermaArmor on Prot is 120MP/6s (75 wis), which is 20MP/s, you can get that in pets with lvl 86

if u want more examples just ask
Quote Originally Posted by swagmedo View Post
You can figure this out using maths:

Helm: A T6 Helm requires 85MP / 6.5s, or 13.08MP/s. you can get that in pets with lvl 77
Seal: A T6 Seal requires 90MP / ~5s, or 18MP/s. you can get that in pets with lvl 83
Shuriken: Keeping the speedy buff requires 10MP/s, you can get that in pets with lvl 73
Shield: Permastunning with T6 requires 100MP/3s, or 33.33MP/s, you can ONLY get that in pets with lvl 96
or you can use Spiteful (22.5MP/s), which needs pets with lvl 89
Cloak: T6 requires the same as the Helm.
Quiver: Permapara is 75MP/3s, or 25MP/s. you can get that in pets with lvl 92
Tome: PermaArmor on Prot is 120MP/6s (75 wis), which is 20MP/s, you can get that in pets with lvl 86

if u want more examples just ask
Bro you are wrong. When calculating the minimum mheal lv required, you need to add in the mana regeneration of the character itself
https ://ww w.reddit.com/r/RotMG/comments/4gi12r/table_on_mheal_and_skills/
Quote Originally Posted by throwaway353829 View Post
https ://ww w.reddit.com/r/RotMG/comments/4gi12r/table_on_mheal_and_skills/
AS I SAID:THERE RE DIFFERENT LV. REQUIRED ON DIFFERENT POST
If you read the post, it says average and max wis
Quote Originally Posted by throwaway353829 View Post
If you read the post, it says average and max wis
Yea but different post said different lv.Then which one should I follow

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Quote Originally Posted by CrazyJani View Post
Calculated some values myself, taking wis into account:
Item Tier Mana Consumption Wisdom Magic Heal Level
Seal of the Blessed Champion 6 90 MP/6 s (15 MP/s)² 75 (5 MP/s) 73 (10.1 MP/s)
Helm of the Juggernaut UT 90 MP/6 s (15 MP/s)¹ 50 (3.5 MP/s) 76 (11.76 MP/s)
Helm of the Great General 6 85 MP/7 s (8.64 MP/s)¹ 50 (3.5 MP/s) 70 (8.68 MP/s)
Cloak of Ghostly Concealment 6 85 MP/6.5 s (13.1 MP/s)¹ 52 (3.62 MP/s) 72 (9.97 MP/s)
Shuriken (any) - 10 MP/s 70 (4.7 MP/s) 60 (5.41 MP/s)
Tome of Holy Protection UT 120 MP/6.13 s (19.57 MP/s)² 80 (5.3 MP/s) 79 (14.52 MP/s)
¹ Limited by cooldown
² Wis modifier taken into account
Thanks mate
Calculated some values myself, taking wis into account:
Item Tier Mana Consumption Wisdom Magic Heal Level
Seal of the Blessed Champion 6 90 MP/6 s (15 MP/s)² 75 (5 MP/s) 73 (10.1 MP/s)
Helm of the Juggernaut UT 90 MP/6 s (15 MP/s)¹ 50 (3.5 MP/s) 76 (11.76 MP/s)
Helm of the Great General 6 85 MP/7 s (8.64 MP/s)¹ 50 (3.5 MP/s) 70 (8.68 MP/s)
Cloak of Ghostly Concealment 6 85 MP/6.5 s (13.1 MP/s)¹ 52 (3.62 MP/s) 72 (9.97 MP/s)
Shuriken (any) - 10 MP/s 70 (4.7 MP/s) 60 (5.41 MP/s)
Tome of Holy Protection UT 120 MP/6.13 s (19.57 MP/s)² 80 (5.3 MP/s) 79 (14.52 MP/s)
¹ Limited by cooldown
² Wis modifier taken into account
Quote Originally Posted by CrazyJani View Post
Calculated some values myself, taking wis into account:
Item Tier Mana Consumption Wisdom Magic Heal Level
Seal of the Blessed Champion 6 90 MP/6 s (15 MP/s)² 75 (5 MP/s) 73 (10.1 MP/s)
Helm of the Juggernaut UT 90 MP/6 s (15 MP/s)¹ 50 (3.5 MP/s) 76 (11.76 MP/s)
Helm of the Great General 6 85 MP/7 s (8.64 MP/s)¹ 50 (3.5 MP/s) 70 (8.68 MP/s)
Cloak of Ghostly Concealment 6 85 MP/6.5 s (13.1 MP/s)¹ 52 (3.62 MP/s) 72 (9.97 MP/s)
Shuriken (any) - 10 MP/s 70 (4.7 MP/s) 60 (5.41 MP/s)
Tome of Holy Protection UT 120 MP/6.13 s (19.57 MP/s)² 80 (5.3 MP/s) 79 (14.52 MP/s)
¹ Limited by cooldown
² Wis modifier taken into account
Appreciate this very much man!
Ninja does not regenerate mana with wis while holding down its shruiken so it needs a level 73 mh pet to perma ability.
Quote Originally Posted by PotatoScience View Post
Ninja does not regenerate mana with wis while holding down its shruiken so it needs a level 73 mh pet to perma ability.
what ninja wont regen with wis???
Just max a divine pet
Yes it does, and if you max a rare pet, you should be fine.
Quote Originally Posted by Anime View Post
Yes it does, and if you max a rare pet, you should be fine.
Nah, rare isn't enough in my opinion
Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
Nah, rare isn't enough in my opinion
Doesn't matter if you are 15-20 MP down, you can still Perma Buff for a considerable amount of time.
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