Steroid cycle.

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Steroid cycle.
Hi,

I have a question about my cycle I am currently on.
I am currently on a test e 500mg a week cycle and have like 13% bf and wanna cut down to 8-10%.
After this cycle I am going to cruise on test e 250mg for like 4-6 weeks.
But should I use some clen in that cruise to cut down or should I go for a cutting cycle after the cruise?
I really hope someone can help me out with this.
Why do people cut on test e? What a waste. Bulk and cut after or something.
Quote Originally Posted by InCognito View Post
Why do people cut on test e? What a waste. Bulk and cut after or something.
But isn't it a waste to focus a entire cycle for cutting? :P
Idk
Quote Originally Posted by MargotRobbie View Post
But isn't it a waste to focus a entire cycle for cutting? :P
Idk
Sounds like a shit plan to me but do whatever makes you happy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Sounds like a shit plan to me but do whatever makes you happy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What would you do?
Cut in the cruise?
Quote Originally Posted by InCognito View Post
Why do people cut on test e? What a waste. Bulk and cut after or something.
Cutting at a CRUISE dose makes more sense than 500mg aka blast numbers.


Quote Originally Posted by MargotRobbie View Post
Not for life. just a while :-)
Steroids aren't as bad as everyone thinks they are.
Some people are just abusing it hard.
1 glass of wine a day is not bad. But 1 bottle is bad.
dkton knows more about steroids than probably anyone on this forum. I've done extensive research on it and know all the science behind it but he's on another level so he's probably going to give you the best advice. You don't need to plead your case to him.

@ @dkton

I don't think this guy should add clen for cut but if he's at a cruise dose of Test @ 250mg/week he could definitely add DNP in for quick results .
you gonna blast and cruise for life? are you decided?
Quote Originally Posted by dkton View Post
you gonna blast and cruise for life? are you decided?
Not for life. just a while :-)
Steroids aren't as bad as everyone thinks they are.
Some people are just abusing it hard.
1 glass of wine a day is not bad. But 1 bottle is bad.
Quote Originally Posted by MargotRobbie View Post
Not for life. just a while :-)
Steroids aren't as bad as everyone thinks they are.
Some people are just abusing it hard.
1 glass of wine a day is not bad. But 1 bottle is bad.
Sorry for the WALLTEXT your answer is on the bold part LMAO

Steroids are not bad when you do them once or twice or maybe once per year and a half knowing that your blood analitics are totally fine, if you are on and off constantly you gonna regret it on a long shot, steroids dont cause big problems on a short period of time that you cant fix but they accumulate over the years because people does not realize, im gonna list you the 5 biggest issues of abusing from the point of view of the biggest endocrines out there (1 being the biggest):

1: syndrome of withdrawal (people with low self esteem see a big increase in moral because they feel better and bigger, once they drop you lose that "moral" that feel of greatness, some people cant handle it and they already thinking on another cicle even before finishing one, this means addiction and steroids are now tagged as an addictive sustances like cocaine)

2: Steroid-induced Hypogandism (lets make it simple, your brain stops sending message to produce testosterone to your balls, so you will produce only a really small amount via adrenal glands so you will lose all libido derived in no erections derived in really low self steem and not being an alpha male derive in depression, at this point you will live forever in TRT, prescribed by a doctor.) TIP: when you are ciclying you are fertile even if you eyaculate and this can be extended for months after cicle, you wont notice it physically so if you dont care about having children you will be ok

3 and 4: Higher bad Colesterol and less good one and derived Left ventricular hypertrophy (self-explanatory, colesterol can be corrected or atleast reduced a lot using omega 3 on cicle but over a long time using wont matter, you will develope plaque and thats life threatening when u are older, the Left Vent Hypertrophy is because the heart is a muscle and ofcourse it will grow aswell, thats BAD because is much work for it to pump blood, anyway this is if u use non stop aka blast and cruise methods)

There is a lot more problems but most of them are reverted once stopping, liver issues and shit but i dont think it is really harmful if you are young and with a healthy liver because liver has a great capacity of autohealing, but remember is not good to stress it over and over and over...

Im just writting this as an advise, there is a lot of people using this days and there is a common phrase used "look at Arnold Schwarzenegger he is not dead!". Obviously he is not but he has been on open heart surgerys more than once, you cant tell if its for the use of anabolics though, but all of this facts are prove and if you become addicted you may regret it.

The right way to do it is to do a blood test, check how it affects you before, during and after and do it again when you see the results back to normal, if you dont follow the right steps you may develope gynecomastia if you using test for example without an antistrogen (depending on ppl some are more prone to others). Dont surpass the 12 week, you dont need to cruise on a single cicle, the cruising is mean to do it if you are gonna be on that till you die, maybe you think taking less it will make your own test to be produced again but nope 250mg is a fuckton still and even on 50mg you need to be out of it for your brain to recognize that you need to produce again and thats with a proper PCT, so take clomid, nolva and HCG and do a proper PCT or you will lose all the gains and feel like shit because of low test production.

and do more research as you can see @Psychotic ask me a lot back on the days and i see that he has been learning a lot on his own and even he got a really decent gains without any problems! and wyo is on progress he cant even handle the lethargy and the insomnia! XDDDDD

as for fat loss agents, that would be other part of the bible lmao.
Quote Originally Posted by dkton View Post
and wyo is on progress he cant even handle the lethargy and the insomnia! XDDDDD
that's cuz dix is a beta
Quote Originally Posted by dkton View Post
Sorry for the WALLTEXT your answer is on the bold part LMAO

Steroids are not bad when you do them once or twice or maybe once per year and a half knowing that your blood analitics are totally fine, if you are on and off constantly you gonna regret it on a long shot, steroids dont cause big problems on a short period of time that you cant fix but they accumulate over the years because people does not realize, im gonna list you the 5 biggest issues of abusing from the point of view of the biggest endocrines out there (1 being the biggest):

1: syndrome of withdrawal (people with low self esteem see a big increase in moral because they feel better and bigger, once they drop you lose that "moral" that feel of greatness, some people cant handle it and they already thinking on another cicle even before finishing one, this means addiction and steroids are now tagged as an addictive sustances like cocaine)

2: Steroid-induced Hypogandism (lets make it simple, your brain stops sending message to produce testosterone to your balls, so you will produce only a really small amount via adrenal glands so you will lose all libido derived in no erections derived in really low self steem and not being an alpha male derive in depression, at this point you will live forever in TRT, prescribed by a doctor.) TIP: when you are ciclying you are fertile even if you eyaculate and this can be extended for months after cicle, you wont notice it physically so if you dont care about having children you will be ok

3 and 4: Higher bad Colesterol and less good one and derived Left ventricular hypertrophy (self-explanatory, colesterol can be corrected or atleast reduced a lot using omega 3 on cicle but over a long time using wont matter, you will develope plaque and thats life threatening when u are older, the Left Vent Hypertrophy is because the heart is a muscle and ofcourse it will grow aswell, thats BAD because is much work for it to pump blood, anyway this is if u use non stop aka blast and cruise methods)

There is a lot more problems but most of them are reverted once stopping, liver issues and shit but i dont think it is really harmful if you are young and with a healthy liver because liver has a great capacity of autohealing, but remember is not good to stress it over and over and over...

Im just writting this as an advise, there is a lot of people using this days and there is a common phrase used "look at Arnold Schwarzenegger he is not dead!". Obviously he is not but he has been on open heart surgerys more than once, you cant tell if its for the use of anabolics though, but all of this facts are prove and if you become addicted you may regret it.

The right way to do it is to do a blood test, check how it affects you before, during and after and do it again when you see the results back to normal, if you dont follow the right steps you may develope gynecomastia if you using test for example without an antistrogen (depending on ppl some are more prone to others). Dont surpass the 12 week, you dont need to cruise on a single cicle, the cruising is mean to do it if you are gonna be on that till you die, maybe you think taking less it will make your own test to be produced again but nope 250mg is a fuckton still and even on 50mg you need to be out of it for your brain to recognize that you need to produce again and thats with a proper PCT, so take clomid, nolva and HCG and do a proper PCT or you will lose all the gains and feel like shit because of low test production.

and do more research as you can see @Psychotic ask me a lot back on the days and i see that he has been learning a lot on his own and even he got a really decent gains without any problems! and wyo is on progress he cant even handle the lethargy and the insomnia! XDDDDD

as for fat loss agents, that would be other part of the bible lmao.
I think you can stay on for a shit load of time. I see people recovering after 3 years b&c

Your true about the Higher bad Colesterol and less good one, Have done a bloodtest and they were both in range. But good was close to min and bad was close to max. so not that bad but not that good either. But once you come off your colestrol get back to normal range.
But check this out:

Leading cause of death in american adults... and thats probably because everyone is eating shit all day.
And thats why most people in the world have a bad colesterol.
Just eat super clean workout and don't drink alcohol and smoke and your still healthier then the average American :_) + Your looking and feeling fucking good on
Quote Originally Posted by MargotRobbie View Post
I think you can stay on for a shit load of time. I see people recovering after 3 years b&c

Your true about the Higher bad Colesterol and less good one, Have done a bloodtest and they were both in range. But good was close to min and bad was close to max. so not that bad but not that good either. But once you come off your colestrol get back to normal range.
But check this out:

Leading cause of death in american adults... and thats probably because everyone is eating shit all day.
And thats why most people in the world have a bad colesterol.
Just eat super clean workout and don't drink alcohol and smoke and your still healthier then the average American :_) + Your looking and feeling fucking good on
Of course there is shit that is worse than anabolics like alcohol or bad food habits, its all about the abuse of it, and a blood test would not tell you SHIT about the plaque on your arteries unless it includes a full lipid panel btw, eitherway steroid world and all the hormone system is not yet investigated and understood 100% yet, and of course you can recover but there is a shitton of people that does not (TRT therapy is used worldwide), thats depending on genetics of every person atm, just the same like some people develop gynecomastia and others dont with even higher ammount of testosterone without antistrogens involve.

The point is, would you risk that chance to be on a 3 year cycle risking a really low recovery of the hormone balance (in which you will lose most of the muscle size that you won during it) or would you rather stay on a safe less extensive one that would grant you a better recover of the hormone edge and keep most of the gains?

Remember PCT does not make you recover like a miracle, if you damage the HTPA axis and their neuronal conexions (not yet investigated properly) you wont recover from a cycle even with PCT, there is a lot of factors involving all of that.

I read an study where people with low test not because test but just older people or people with hormone imbalance were given clomid to help the HTPA axis and they recover like crazy, others with low test because long years of using roids were given the same amount of clomid and they were misserable not recovering and not even working, thats some crazy internal neurotransmisor shit damage that science cant even yet understand, im not saying you cant just use anabolics but the longer you use them is like playing russian rulette longer on yourself.
Quote Originally Posted by dkton View Post
Of course there is shit that is worse than anabolics like alcohol or bad food habits, its all about the abuse of it, and a blood test would not tell you SHIT about the plaque on your arteries unless it includes a full lipid panel btw, eitherway steroid world and all the hormone system is not yet investigated and understood 100% yet, and of course you can recover but there is a shitton of people that does not (TRT therapy is used worldwide), thats depending on genetics of every person atm, just the same like some people develop gynecomastia and others dont with even higher ammount of testosterone without antistrogens involve.

The point is, would you risk that chance to be on a 3 year cycle risking a really low recovery of the hormone balance (in which you will lose most of the muscle size that you won during it) or would you rather stay on a safe less extensive one that would grant you a better recover of the hormone edge and keep most of the gains?

Remember PCT does not make you recover like a miracle, if you damage the HTPA axis and their neuronal conexions (not yet investigated properly) you wont recover from a cycle even with PCT, there is a lot of factors involving all of that.

I read an study where people with low test not because test but just older people or people with hormone imbalance were given clomid to help the HTPA axis and they recover like crazy, others with low test because long years of using roids were given the same amount of clomid and they were misserable not recovering and not even working, thats some crazy internal neurotransmisor shit damage that science cant even yet understand, im not saying you cant just use anabolics but the longer you use them is like playing russian rulette longer on yourself.
Your totally true, but there are a few things I would like to add.
Have you seen the sides of clomid & nolvadex. those medications are more worse then a bit of testosterone.
And if your planning to do 1 cycle a year its healthier to go for a PCT but if you want to do more cycles a year I would recommend to cruise instead.
Since if you go off cycle your body has to work very hard to get everything back up + pct is more unhealthy then the cycle haha. and you also avoid that rollercoaster effect so no mental downs and you keep more gains.
Most people go on trt anyways to improve live quality, So why would it be healthy for them? but would it be unhealthy to cruise on it?
stop critize him for asking help, he ask us because he trust us. now listen margot, if you still young, why don't you explore something natural before you get yourself into a mistake, i think steroids are last resort if you got problems. dont let laziness give you regret.........
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