Good book?

Can someone point me in the direction of a good book to learn java from? I'm switching over from learning c++ for a week. Mainly because it woul be my first language and I feel like java would be better suited. Also because it's almost syntacticly identical so it would be pretty easy to switch over in the end. Also I can program Android OS apps and possibly make a little money? (hehe)

Thnx.

I will prefer you Google to learn everything I think you can easily learn different programing languages online....................................Its my experience..

Originally Posted by kiksmo.solutions

I will prefer you Google to learn everything I think you can easily learn different programing languages online....................................Its my experience..

HOLY SHIT SOMEONE REPLIED!

Well since this java section is dead I was pretty much left with sticking to c++, unless someone can convince me otherwise.

Yeh ur prbly better off that way. I learned Java in school so don't have a good idea for a book for you. I still know a lot about Java, but I don't visit this forum often.

Originally Posted by why06

Yeh ur prbly better off that way. I learned Java in school so don't have a good idea for a book for you. I still know a lot about Java, but I don't visit this forum often.

Better off what way? Learning java and then switching over to c++? I don't really understand that comment.

Originally Posted by NextGen1

Revive the Java Section... Let's go... Chop Chop

Well first, we need to not make it be in a subsection under "other languages", secondly, we need someone to reply to the posts. It took 3 weeks for a reply about a java book, seriously like wtf? It would be stranger trying to learn java and be the only one posting topics XD

So you know java NextGen1? Any recomendations?

Revive the Java Section... Let's go... Chop Chop

Yes, What i like to call "The Oracle" (obvious is obvious :-p) The Best way to learn any language is to get knee deep in it, use it for every thing you need. Make no exceptions. When I was learning new languages I would create a application whenever I came across a pc/web related issues. Example> Keys stopped working on an old keyboard, I created a application to use global hotkeys and sendkeys to reroute the keysrokes (so to speak) so the end, page up and page down keys performed the tasks of the enter, backspace and down keys (for three days will I stopped being lazy and got a new keyboard) point is Oracle offers a great amount of tuts, after you learn the basics, move on to actually working with java until it becomes second nature. I don't like books (unless they are "Cook Books") because usually all they are is 300-600 pages of nonsense that all lead up to a "hello World app" with some extra features. Nothing really gained in that

, almost all of them say something like .......

"Okay, here is where we have some fun and get to do some cool things with java... Now type this

Code:

   System.out.println("Hello World!");

Compile your application and watch the magic"

THE END

in which case I respond (in my head) WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 21 days and 400 pages later and that's it........19.99 my asss!!! , and then I go back to my local "farms not noble" store and return the damn rip off book for credit, which I use to buy some emo music and wallop in my stupidity for wasting 21 days (1 hr a day) on that...I learned that when I read the cover of the book, hell I could of learned that while I was still in the damn store. These books are proof, you should read the last page first.

Originally Posted by NextGen1

Yes, What i like to call "The Oracle" (obvious is obvious :-p) The Best way to learn any language is to get knee deep in it, use it for every thing you need. Make no exceptions. When I was learning new languages I would create a application whenever I came across a pc/web related issues. Example> Keys stopped working on an old keyboard, I created a application to use global hotkeys and sendkeys to reroute the keysrokes (so to speak) so the end, page up and page down keys performed the tasks of the enter, backspace and down keys (for three days will I stopped being lazy and got a new keyboard) point is Oracle offers a great amount of tuts, after you learn the basics, move on to actually working with java until it becomes second nature. I don't like books (unless they are "Cook Books") because usually all they are is 300-600 pages of nonsense that all lead up to a "hello World app" with some extra features. Nothing really gained in that

, almost all of them say something like .......

"Okay, here is where we have some fun and get to do some cool things with java... Now type this

Code:

   System.out.println("Hello World!");

Compile your application and watch the magic"

THE END

in which case I respond (in my head) WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 21 days and 400 pages later and that's it........19.99 my asss!!! , and then I go back to my local "farms not noble" store and return the damn rip off book for credit, which I use to buy some emo music and wallop in my stupidity for wasting 21 days (1 hr a day) on that...I learned that when I read the cover of the book, hell I could of learned that while I was still in the damn store. These books are proof, you should read the last page first.

DAMN you really want the java section back with that essay! (I kid I kid)

ok, I'll look into whatever this "oracle" thingy is. And I see what you mean about books. I made it about 3/4 of the way through Herbert schildts c++ book, and all I can really make is simple equations, and simple cin >> statements. I really don't think I'd like to read 3-4 books before I fully grasp the language.

So i hear java is a little slower that c++ and it's not as powerful. What kind of things can java make and how hard would it be to make a simple 2d game, for example. And do you have any experience with the Android SDK? Thanks. Let's revive the section!

Originally Posted by NextGen1

Blah blah Blah insert Nextgen offtopic paragraph here

in which case I respond (in my head) WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 21 days and 400 pages later and that's it........19.99 my asss!!! ,
Blah Blah...
Somethin abt reading a bad book.

Did I mention I want to see ur picture on the Staff pics thread?

@ ez2animate: try including a main function then.

In Java everything has to be in a class, so main is a function of your class, its a bit wierd but you'll get used to it. And what Java actly does is run ur class by calling main

So its.
class Ur_class_name
{
public static void main(Strings [] args)
{
code
}
}

Originally Posted by why06

Did I mention I want to see ur picture on the Staff pics thread?

@ ez2animate: try including a main function then.

In Java everything has to be in a class, so main is a function of your class, its a bit wierd but you'll get used to it. And what Java actly does is run ur class by calling main

So its.
class Ur_class_name
{
public static void main(Strings [] args)
{
code
}
}

Yeah, I don't know if it's because I'm used to visual studio 2008 express or because i've been learning c++, but it seems like ALOT of work just for a hello world program.

And it still didn't work after trying that. I give up on java =/

Originally Posted by ez2animate

I give up on java =/

Ok. If ur already going with C++ go for it. Both are excellent languages to start with... and well finish with. =P

Oracle | Software. Hardware. Complete. and Trail: Learning the Java Language (The Java™ Tutorials) You can create almost anything with Java from complete apps to applets, your basic calculator and notepad to complete server side applications, Voting systems, File to array converters..etc

Originally Posted by NextGen1

Oracle | Software. Hardware. Complete. and Trail: Learning the Java Language (The Java™ Tutorials) You can create almost anything with Java from complete apps to applets, your basic calculator and notepad to complete server side applications, Voting systems, File to array converters..etc

Um, ok. Well after looking at java, I couldn't even get a hello world program to run... I don't really like java too much right now. I was using eclipse, and it was saying something about there being no main() any fixes, because right now java seems dumb to meh.

Java isn't dumb, just takes some getting used to, and the extenions for eclipse are tremendous.

Originally Posted by NextGen1

Java isn't dumb, just takes some getting used to, and the extenions for eclipse are tremendous.

Well looking at how much work it takes to just get a hello world program running, I don't think it's going to get me motivated to get off my ass of c++ and convert. 1 month is a long time wasted.

Good book?

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