Help with those that ARE I.P BANNED the easy way.

Changing your MAC address will not change your IP address. If you change your router's MAC address, the service from your ISP will be disrupted, as the service is bonded to your MAC address (ultra-simplified explanation). You will have to notify your ISP of your new MAC.

If you have a dynamic IP address, power-cycling your router will change your IP.

If you have a static IP address, you will have to connect to the internet using a proxy.

HWID can be changed most easily via re-installing windows.

Wow ? Really ? You've not tried it, go ahead, try it, change your routers Mac. But before you do it, go to a website, get your I.P address, assuming its also dynamic here though. Then check it after you changed your mac address and you sit and honestly say, " no my I.P" didn't change.

I do not believe you know the difference between an internal and external IP address.

Changing your MAC does not change your IP address. Networking is my job, I am paid to know this sort of thing.

Then you obviously know your external I.P address is the one that is viewed by "WWW" web addresses that is used ultimately to connect to the internet .. lol while your internal can't be changed but this should be quite OBVIOUS. Since most bans from Sony ban your external, changing your routers mac address works, 24/7 unless your hardware I.D banned.

Once again, changing your router's MAC address does not change your external IP address. The process you are describing is MAC-spoofing, which, again, does NOT change your external IP (unless you have a dynamic IP and in the process of MAC-spoofing you power-cycle your router, which is what I suspect you are doing and mistaking as changing your external IP).

This is completely incorrect, and further cements the notion that you don't know specifically what an internal or external IP address is. Changing your internal IP address is completely possible and very easy. If SOE banned your internal address, as you have suggested, literally thousands of players would be banned simultaneously and unjustly since their internal IP is 192.168.0.1-255.

I see you are posting from Bangladesh, perhaps ISP companies handle IP assignments differently there. However, for the majority of the world, your MAC and IP are completely separate from each other and have NOTHING to do with each other. Your MAC address is the unique ID assigned to a piece of hardware to differentiate it from any other internet-capable device, while your IP is the address used to logically locate a device within its own network.

Check the following links for a more detailed description of how these things work;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_spoofing

Does Changing Your MAC Address Change Your IP Address? - Tech Support Forum

As a further point, you'll note that no-one has posted in response to this topic with a success story of changing your MAC to evade an IP ban.

To any other posters reading this topic, please be aware that the only way to change your external IP address is by power-cycling your router (if you have a dynamic IP) or by using a proxy to spoof your IP (if you have a static IP).

You lack common knowledge of this topic, hence forth why there are so many " wiki links" which is very wrong at times and a unreliable source, find .gov sites. For the time being check out this nice video of a person whom is doing exactly what I explained.



Come at me bro.

So what your saying is your making a complete fool of yourself, this method works, 100% of the time, and will allow you to get passed their ban that is set in place, go educate yourself more, I'm a better network tech than you are with my eyes closed and my dick out the window, I don't even think you have the slightest clue what I even posted to begin with. That is the case point blank, This method works, you have now a video of it, so get off my post with your ignorant comments. ( meaning you lack knowledge)

Internet standards, such as IP and MAC definitions, are defined very specifically in RFCs and other agreed-upon standards. These are not mis-represented in wikipedia, and your lack of an actual argument while posting youtube links and attacking the veracity of my sources speaks to your lack of knowledge on the general subject.

I don't really care what your opinion is on my sources. Just in case any knowledgeable reader wishes to educate themselves further, check the following links for a comprehensive description in the workings and technicalities behind and IP and MAC address;

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2281.txt
RFC 1918 - Address Allocation for Private Internets

I challenge any person reading this topic to change the MAC address of your router. Not only will it disrupt your internet service, but your external IP will remain the same (once your service is restored).

So instead of actually defending the alleged points you've made, you've descended into ad-hominem attacks on my character while continuing to claim (with no verifiable proof) that your alleged fixes have any sustainability while providing no actual proof. Why don't you record and upload a youtube video of you changing the MAC of your own router, resulting in a changed external IP, if you are so sure of yourself?

Your youtube video shows a person changing their MAC and resulting in a different IP. Their IP address completely changes the first octet of their IP, which is only possible by a handful of ways. ISPs lease and only have access to a pre-defined, narrow range of IP addresses (re: the first octet of available addresses, not that I expect you to understand what this means). That alone calls into suspicion the entirety of this video. There is zero proof that the person who made this video did so in a legitimate matter. It is entirely likely (and most likely) that said person knew a previously-compatible MAC address that had already been assigned an IP address elsewhere on the net. Entering random hexadecimal values into your router's MAC address field will not yield a functional internet connection. Try it. It doesn't work.

As further testimony to the falseness of this method, your linked youtube video is chock-full of user comments complaining that the described method does not work. For those who might still have doubts, check the video itself (http:/tu.be/mdZXKcBE4mw) and read the dozens of comments lamenting that this method does not work.

The burden of proof is on you. No-one has posted in support of your alleged method. It would be best if you ceased your pathetic attempts and attacks on a person's character and knowledge when you are exposed to have no actual proof or legitimacy in your claims.

Hilarious. Unless you have any hard facts or evidence to suggest your claims, you are embarrassing yourself while falling to the level of internet memes as support in the futile hope that others will believe you.

Changing your MAC address does NOT change your external IP address, unless you have a dynamic IP and power-cycle your router in the process.

To any other posters reading this topic, please be aware that the only way to change your external IP address is by power-cycling your router (if you have a dynamic IP) or by using a proxy to spoof your IP (if you have a static IP).

On the off-chance a mod is reading this thread, could we please lock it so that mis-information is not spread among the userbase of this website? Thanks.

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Furthermore, performing a whois lookup of the IP addresses supplied in your youtube video (75.135.156.151 and 24.236.202.174) reveals that both are owned by Charter Communications, futher cementing the fact that the video creator knew a compatible MAC address ahead of time and changed his MAC to one that was already assigned by the ISP.

In other words, your video offers zero proof in your favor, and, if anything, proves my point that MAC addresses are assigned to individual routers in order to properly provide internet service.

If you should happen to know a second MAC address that has already been assigned by your ISP, then yes, changing your MAC to this already known value will change your external IP. The likelihood of this occurring for a person entering random values for their router's MAC address is zero.

Obviously if I have accounts that have been banned and I can now, re-enter them that should legitimately tell you, it works.

Plus your just attacking my post without any knowledge, your ignorant, obviously Mac okay lets even put it in " fancy " terms Medic Access Control.

Lets even take this a step further.

Okay say I Get rid of my router, your information you posted that the M.A.C address cannot be changed or you will disrupt your connection to your I.S.P is false. Because your saying that I was using the router to solely access the intranet, which was true, until I made a direct connection from the modem to my computer. Which leads to the next case. Your computer itself has a M.A.C because of the port in the back for Ethernet. Which means my method, will, does, and always will work. Why ? Most people have dynamic I.P address, your whole Idea of power-cycling will not get you un.i.p banned and is just putting misinterpreted information in this thread. Why no one has had success, maybe no one has tried it , I have, I can prove it easily, SS etc. That video is pretty legit, plus I said if you know what your doing, I don't expect if your 12 years old to do this and be successful. I have knowledge of M.A.C addresses that I can use, there is even a tool that is up on here that is about HWID and it is just a M.A.C address changer.

So how can you blatantly fall into human stupidity every single time that you confirm my facts ? Their hardened proof ? All you can claim is " It won't change " blah blah ? You might not be able to but I can and I'm sure others can with the knowledge I provided. So portraying as something your not is even more frustrating for people who can benefit from this post. You are not a Network tech or even involved in tackling them, I'd be scared to allow you to touch my network.

Wiki links prove nothing that video is pretty hardcore evidence and I can find more all day long, and honestly If I have to put a tutorial on how to make up M.A.C addresses properly, it would be boring you should know you cant do anything that isn't following the specific pattern. F4:6D:047:51:8E Bam made up M.A.C address that will work just reset the connection.

Oh by the way, I can post my certifications too for networking, even link a facebook page and respond happily to your comments, and even tell you the business I work for.... so yea... I know what I'm talking about. I also know how to spell further.

Further proof of your complete lack of knowledge. I'm not even angry at you anymore, it's very clear that you're completely misinformed and lying to save face. Certainly, no tech company worth their salt would ever hire someone as misinformed as you, nor would any legit education institute certify your utter lack of knowledge. Let's see, how to best phrase this all;

Your internet comes in through the wall, via coaxial or RJ-12 or even fiber optic. This connects to your modem, which changes the interface over to ethernet. If you need multiple computers to connect to this modem, you connect the modem to a router, and the computers to the router. The router is not needed if you have only a single computer connected to the modem via ethernet.

The MAC address of an internet-capable device refers to the unique hardware ID that marks it as different from every other internet-capable device. The modem has a MAC, the router has a MAC, each computer has a MAC (sometimes multiple, if you have more than one NIC in a computer). The sole purpose of this MAC is to give each computer its own way of IDing itself as different from the rest of the computers in the world. Think of it like a person's ID card. It proves you are who you say you are.

The IP address of an internet-capable device is used to logically locate a device within a network. Via the process of subnetting, large networks can be broken down into smaller branches containing groups of IPs. The IP address tells other devices on the network what subnet the device is in, and how to send data to it. It can get even more confusing than that, you can create private networks inside public ones, which is actually how your own network at home works. At the very top is the public internet, with (before IPv6 came out) a small pool of available addresses. The ISPs and telecoms all lease or own different branches in the public internet. Bigger companies have more addresses available to them than smaller ones.

To save on space when you sign up for internet access, your ISP gives you only one IP address. If you have more than one device, you usually use a router to create a private network inside your home. This allows you as many IP addresses as you want (without using up IPs on the public internet), as the network is only communicating with the public internet via the modem and its one IP address, which translates the internal IP addresses of your private network into the external IP address of your modem for outgoing and incoming communication.

Now, you can spoof a MAC address, which makes the device appear to have a different MAC than it originally did. However, this doesn't actually change the MAC itself; the device tells all the devices it communicates with that its MAC is different and all communications to it will need to use this different MAC. However, once these communication data arrive at the device, it performs a translation and converts this different MAC back to its original, hence why it is called "spoofing". IP addresses can also be spoofed, but since the IP acts as directions to your computer, instead of an individual ID to your computer (since there are so many IP addresses available, and private networks allow even more, the IP is never unique in the world), you can think of it like your street address, used when mailing something to you.

That's actually a great analogy, your private network is like your house, your MAC is your name, and your IP is your street address. Someone mails you something by using your street address to make sure it gets to the right house, and your name to make sure it gets to the right occupant.

The essential thing to understand here is that a MAC address and an IP address are completely unrelated to each other. If you have only one, you can't find the other. Yes, you need both to function on the internet, but they operate independently of each other and are not tied to each other in any way. Changing your MAC will NOT change your IP, just as changing your IP will NOT change your MAC.

As for how MAC and your internet service are related; Your ISP goes to their own router config page and inputs your modem's MAC information. This is how the data that is destined for you actually gets to you. If you change the MAC of your modem, your ISP will still have its own router configured to route data to the old MAC, and you won't connect to the internet. Think of it like this, if you change your address without telling the Post Office, then your mail obviously won't get to you. If your setup is Modem>Router>PC, and you change the MAC of the router itself, this won't effectively change anything, as the only devices which need to know your router's MAC to communicate with it are the modem and the PC, and they will both get the updated MAC when the router broadcasts to redetect the network structure.

Actually, it will if you have a dynamic IP. When you power-cycle, your modem loses its lease on its IP address. Static IPs just get reassigned the same one, but Dynamic IPs will register a new one in the block available to the ISP.

If you can do it and prove it, why don't you? Screenshots are far too easy to edit to win an internet argument, so why don't you make a youtube video of this successfully working? That video is far from legit, as I explained earlier, the maker had advanced knowledge of compatible MACs ahead of time, and the scores of complaints in the comments lamenting it as not working remove any further doubt.

Why don't you post some proof? Instead of making personal attacks against me and my knowledgebase, why not go ahead and prove that it can work? Any person reading the conversation between us will be able to tell very easily which of us has more experience and actual hands-on knowledge of networking. Hint: it's the guy explaining every detail of every step of the processes involved while posting verifiable links, not the guy who posts a single youtube video and slings insults with nothing to back up his claims.

Even if you don't care for wikipedia, I posted two links that are the actual Request For Comments describing how MAC and IP work. These RFCs are the internet standards, set by the IETF that all ISPs, telecoms, and manufacturers have agreed to and adhere to.

Due to the unverifiable nature of the miasma-like internet, I too can post any facebook page I like and claim it as mine. Facebook proves nothing, images can be doctored, you have no proof of anything and I highly doubt you are certified in networking, let alone employed in it. Also, your spelling and grammar are both atrocious.

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To any other posters reading this topic, please be aware that the only way to change your external IP address is by power-cycling your router (if you have a dynamic IP) or by using a proxy to spoof your IP (if you have a static IP). Changing your MAC address does NOT change your external IP address, unless you have a dynamic IP and power-cycle your router in the process.

The amount of words is getting higher and higher with every post

Networking, routing, subnetting, MACs and IPs, and the like are all pretty complicated. I'm including as much information as I can so that innocent people do not break their internet access or cause any other harm to their computers or networks because one person doesn't understand how the process works. And if I can educate a few people in the process, that would be a bonus.

It isn't complicated, and I'm just done here, the information provide will help the knowledgeable help themselves. I even stated that to begin with.

It is in step two unless a certified tech can't read right ? You wouldn't go screwing with a electronic system that was high voltage if you had only vague knowledge, this is for pros like me and others that do know what M.A.C addresses are.

Networking is the simplistic fucking thing on this planet. Obviously he wants to make it more complex, every thing is connected via fiber optic, hence why your even able to access the intranet, hence why you can hack anthers computer via that system, your connected to it. Anytime you access the intranet your connected to millions of people, kind of crazy to think about but it is true.

M.A.C addresses are just codes used for the " media " device to route a I.P your provider gives you, to connect. Hence why you change it, your I.P changes.
Not your fucking internal like this guy can't seem to understand. Hell I'll even post a vid, once I get time, but the thing is I already know M.A.C's that work that is the sole problem here.. That is why I also put information that did STATE you have to know how your router works, not basic knowledge KNOW how it works.

Plus if anyone wants to try it, you can just guess, rinse and repeat until you get a working M.A.C address. But always put your old M.A.C in a text file and save it so you know you have one that works.

This guy who is commenting is just some person who assumed that I had no clue how it worked and is getting burned by his conformation of my facts, just read, he just confirms everything I say. I look at him now as a advocate of how this does work. Straight from a " network techs" mouth I might even add his post that contain knowledge that would help us to the original thread I started.

Remember that guys. You can change it if you have a dynamic I.P which is what most people have unless your living in some far of country, just make sure. Thanks for proving me right again bucko.

First off, your bullshitting, once again, and just adding fluff sentences staph. Just staph.

Changing a M.A.C does work, maybe not for you, because of how illiterate you are, but it does and will change the I.P seen by Sony.

Obviously you should post your bullshit on other parts of this forum in the same place, HWID ban thread might be a place to start, and just go and put your crap there, because that tool does the same thing I'm telling people to do, but it does it with your router in case you have multiple PC's connected. In addition, your just posting information that STILL to this point CONFIRMS everything I say, and I stand by. This obviously will work, it has worked, I've done it, there are videos of people doing it. I'm really done with this argument, all you are is just " googling " everything which really helps ? Yes it informs them but the point of this thread is changing your M.A.C to acquire another I.P address that can be used to connect. Allow players that have been I.P banned by Sony to once again play. I have accounts that are banned I'll even post them up if you want, with their passwords ETC... and obviously if I've been banned 3 times, and now have a legitimate account up and running.. well what say you oh great network guru, one time like or I just get lucky over fifty times... cause of how much I do here, plus I've been here way longer than you. I just lurk and help out on another account.

Plus I've read your previous post, you've not a clue what your talking about and likely work for Sony or some shit from the looks of it. This works, try it out, if it doesn't work, sorry, its not going to work for everyone, its like medication. Some it has great effects, others it kills them. Cherio.