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Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
Neega there's pros and cons to gun control. Innocents are saved by guns and are killed by guns. Murica needs to take the variables into account as to why this is happening as well and not only focusing on gun control (mental health). I'm not sure why you guys have semi-automatic rifles, wtf??? FUK MURICA
Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
@Dave84311 I'd tear a 50 caliber bullet into that ass


That's the same old NRA excuse. PEOPLE CAN SAVE LIVES WITH GUNS, yet every time there is a mass shooting, where's the lone ranger cowboy taking down the gunman? Trump is a hypocrite, removed laws preventing mentally ill people from obtaining guns, and kills obamacare which essentially removes the ability for people to access mental health affordably. I don't think people are up in arms about someone having a pistol, but crazy fucks with assault rifles walking into schools and hotels and mowing down tens of people is unacceptable.
Quote Originally Posted by arunforce View Post

That's the same old NRA excuse. PEOPLE CAN SAVE LIVES WITH GUNS, yet every time there is a mass shooting, where's the lone ranger cowboy taking down the gunman? Trump is a hypocrite, removed laws preventing mentally ill people from obtaining guns, and kills obamacare which essentially removes the ability for people to access mental health affordably. I don't think people are up in arms about someone having a pistol, but crazy fucks with assault rifles walking into schools and hotels and mowing down tens of people is unacceptable.
Ya haha, semi-automatics. Need to dismantle america along with the semi-automatics or you can use Dave's fat ass to shield schools OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COULD HIRE VETERANS/SECURITY as well.
Banning militarized style weapons and banning all arms are two totally different things.


Arming teachers is like giving your kids a weapon. Unless they're trained and seem like a coherent sane person then they're likely to use the weapon for other reasons. Also majority of uses of guns are not in self defense, the overwhelming majority is used as methods of suicide, homicides, and domestic threats. Instead we should spend a little bit of money putting at least one officer in every school.


Also the solution to decrease mass shootings is better social welfare and gun control. The NRA, right winged corporate media pundits, and politicians do their best to create this narrative of people trying to outright ban all arms. This causes a large portion of people to feel it's an infringement of their constitutional right so they shut out any conversation of real gun control. Such as forcing individuals to give background checks on peer to peer sells, or forcing gun owners to be educated and trained to respectfully use a firearm. Mean while the republican continues to reduce/kill social welfare programs targeted to help the poor and ill. So this whole argument "it's the person not the gun" is total bullshit if they aren't willing to propose improving and increase social welfare.
Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
Neega there's pros and cons to gun control. Innocents are saved by guns and are killed by guns. Murica needs to take the variables into account as to why this is happening as well and not only focusing on gun control (mental health). I'm not sure why you guys have semi-automatic rifles, wtf??? FUK MURICA
@Dave84311 I'd tear a 50 caliber bullet into that ass
Typical shitdow posting shitdow like video. There are no pros for idiots having guns. Can you provide any stats for innocents being saved by a random shooter with a gun?

Sure mental health would be a nice thing to look at, but people are more closed off, I saw it growing up and it's getting worse with the internet.
Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post


Typical shitdow posting shitdow like video. There are no pros for idiots having guns. Can you provide any stats for innocents being saved by a random shooter with a gun?

Sure mental health would be a nice thing to look at, but people are more closed off, I saw it growing up and it's getting worse with the internet.
??????? Home owners who been robbed, convenience store owners, almost anything that falls in that category

I'm definitely up for people owning firearms but not semi-automatics because there's no reason to have them.

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Quote Originally Posted by Confluency View Post
I generally view anybody who thinks it's a necessity to have semi-automatic weapons or guns in general to be idiots.

I also hate the idiots who keep saying "stop politicizing their deaths!!!!", jesus christ shut the fuck up lmao even the parents of the dead kids are making it political. It's a political issue whether they like it or not, any notice how the people saying to show some "respect to the families" and stop talking about gun control so early are the same ones screaming "FUCK POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!!!"
Yes, obviously, how could anyone disagree with you? You've got the answers for everything at your doorstep.

"Kids of the parents politicizing their deaths" And???? The ironic thing is that if these kids died in a car crash, nobody would care as much as they do right now. Be real, you don't care how they died, you along with a lot of other people are just politicizing it because of guns because you have the chance to. Putting the issue of gun control aside, if people really cared about life, they'd take other leading causes of death in children more seriously. I'm not saying that I agree with having semi-automatic weapons, because they have no use and you can use non-semi automatics to protect yourself.

Somehow 17 people being killed went from a tragic situation to somehow Trump being blamed and a large debate about guns. If you guys really have an issue with guns don't fucking wait until someone gets killed? Everyone's out here right now pushing their agendas but at this point it's not about the people who died because people are talking about political shit instead like gun control.

It's disgusting that people's lives are being used as political ammo.
Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
The ironic thing is that if these kids died in a car crash, nobody would care as much as they do right now. Be real, you don't care how they died, you along with a lot of other people are just politicizing it because of guns because you have the chance to. Putting the issue of gun control aside, if people really cared about life, they'd take other leading causes of death in children more seriously. I'm not saying that I agree with having semi-automatic weapons, because they have no use and you can use non-semi automatics to protect yourself.
The main issue I have with this statement is that it doesn't acknowledge the nature of the gun debate. It is a BIG political issue because:
a) It involves individual's rights (to own a firearm)
b) It involves a problem a person or group is facing (17 high school students mowed down)
c) points a) and b) are against one another.

Something like the assortment of diseases, mental issues, and social and intellectual issues children face in their schools are SMALL political issues because there is no point a) like the gun debate has, just a point b). If schools want more social workers in schools, nobody's rights are infringed if that happens.
Since there is only a point b) to those issues, few people really disagree fundamentally on any of the opinions on what needs to be done for those issues. Most people would say "yes, we need better schools, more personal care for students, better education curriculum, better accommodation for special students, etc".
The only real difference people have is the priority and the application of solutions for those issues. In this regard, individuals and organizations just doing things independently on their own (such as charities, NGO's the administrative branches of governments, companies, etc)are far more likely to take charge in these issues than the probability of a sudden uproar in public support (since of course the public doesn't just suddenly become aware and interested in an issue that was rarely talked about for no reason).

Think of these things like choosing to exercise at the gym. Sure, you may have amendments to the way you accomplish your goal, but there fundamental principle of choosing to exercise at the gym is still there. You are staying on the same path, just making the route easier to maneuver. You aren't going to suddenly wake up and think "Oh no, I'm too healthy, I must eat chocolate every day now" (Of course this scenario doesn't apply universally so there may be some discrepancies in real life).

For something like gun control, just talk to Confluency then talk to Cursed. You'll quickly find some fundamental differences between the two's opinions. So it is always a hotly contested issue of what needs to be done and how it needs to be done. Since there is such a large degree of deviation in American's opinions on the matter because of how the a) and b) points are there and against one another, whenever the consequences of the country's overall actions or lack of actions are made apparent (such as a mass shooting), it should be expected that we will obviously talk about it.

Think of it like investing in a fishy company. Once you see a drop in price, you may want to reassess the situation because you think it might be better invested in a different company. There is a clear fundamental issue you have with the company. You are considering switching to a vastly different path.
Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
??????? Home owners who been robbed, convenience store owners, almost anything that falls in that category

I'm definitely up for people owning firearms but not semi-automatics because there's no reason to have them.
Don't you think guns enable people to commit such crimes? I mean @Ben isn't scared to fight off a school shooter with his pistol.
Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post

Don't you think guns enable people to commit such crimes? I mean @<a href="https://www.mpgh.net/forum/member.php?u=2348112" target="_blank">Cursed</a> isn't scared to fight off a school shooter with his pistol.
Yea no bud. My point was if more citizens were armed, there would have been less damage as the gunner would have met resistance.

Good one though. This is a great comedy thread. Love how arun even said 'Even if it is any semi-automatic gun, it's a start.'

lmfao @arunforce it's either all guns or no guns. Guns are meant to kill, not wound... lmfao

keep going pls



leave this for u guys:

Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post


Yea no bud. My point was if more citizens were armed, there would have been less damage as the gunner would have met resistance.

Good one though. This is a great comedy thread. Love how arun even said 'Even if it is any semi-automatic gun, it's a start.'

lmfao @arunforce it's either all guns or no guns. Guns are meant to kill, not wound... lmfao

keep going pls



leave this for u guys:

That's not what you said tho bud. More citizens at school? There were already two armed guards? You think teachers are gonna be carrying around guns?

It isn't all guns or no guns... idk where you got that idea at. Your papa, Trump, is banning bump stocks...

Also that guy is an idiot.
Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post


That's not what you said tho bud. More citizens at school? There were already two armed guards? You think teachers are gonna be carrying around guns?

It isn't all guns or no guns... idk where you got that idea at. Your papa, Trump, is banning bump stocks...

Also that guy is an idiot.
>It isn't all guns or no guns
Geeked

Guns kill. You're either or against it.
>B-But the AR-15 looks scary!

Cool. A shotgun is a hell of a lot more damage... And you don't think the same result could have been achieved with 2 glock 19s and some coke? Lol

Oh I didn't know bump stocks were a type of gun... Oh I didn't know you could ban belts? lmfao Dave.

Comedy gold


Quote Originally Posted by Dab View Post
Also majority of uses of guns are not in self defense, the overwhelming majority is used as methods of suicide, homicides, and domestic threats.
Wow you need to stop huffing paint. This is not the case in America.

The fact is, there are 101 guns per 100 inhabitants and America and the highest gun homicide rate is a country with 6 guns per 100 inhabitants. You can't get a number of how many guns are out there are used for self defense... Thus putting your statement into imaginary land. Lmao how many guns do I have? That's an answer that I only know and for intruders to find out. Legit where did you come up with this? If this is the case, how is the number of guns being owned increase and the number of gun related crime is decreasing?

Lmfao you really really need to change that santa hat to a dunce hat.
Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post

Cool. A shotgun is a hell of a lot more damage... And you don't think the same result could have been achieved with 2 glock 19s and some coke? Lol

Oh I didn't know bump stocks were a type of gun... Oh I didn't know you could ban belts? lmfao Dave.

Comedy gold
Cool, at a much shorter distance. The stopping power of a glock 19 and effective distance isn't as great as an AR-15. This mother fucker was shooting through walls and killing people. So no, sorry 2 glock 19s and some coke wouldn't have had the same results. A similar body count could be done with capable hands, but not without having every victim in their line of sight. If you're trying to compare a rifle to a pistol like your brother @Matthew, you are an idiot.

uhhh who said that they were? My point is that legislation will target certain types of modifications and groups of weapons based on their clip size, frequency of fire, etc.

Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post

The fact is, there are 101 guns per 100 inhabitants and America and the highest gun homicide rate is a country with 6 guns per 100 inhabitants. You can't get a number of how many guns are out there are used for self defense... Thus putting your statement into imaginary land. Lmao how many guns do I have? That's an answer that I only know and for intruders to find out. Legit where did you come up with this? If this is the case, how is the number of guns being owned increase and the number of gun related crime is decreasing?
Nice picking out random stats... Most of those guns are in hands of collectors. I believe something like 90% of all guns are in the hands of collectors. Cool fake news bud

Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post


Cool, at a much shorter distance. The stopping power of a glock 19 and effective distance isn't as great as an AR-15. This mother fucker was shooting through walls and killing people. So no, sorry 2 glock 19s and some coke wouldn't have had the same results. A similar body count could be done with capable hands, but not without having every victim in their line of sight. If you're trying to compare a rifle to a pistol like your brother @Matthew, you are an idiot.

uhhh who said that they were? My point is that legislation will target certain types of modifications and groups of weapons based on their clip size, frequency of fire, etc.



Nice picking out random stats... Most of those guns are in hands of collectors. I believe something like 90% of all guns are in the hands of collectors. Cool fake news bud

Like I said, it's impossible to put a number on that... Bud. But I know we shouldn't compare pistols to files... Pistols only kill 19x more people.

Guns are killing machines. You're either or against.
I generally view anybody who thinks it's a necessity to have semi-automatic weapons or guns in general to be idiots.

I also hate the idiots who keep saying "stop politicizing their deaths!!!!", jesus christ shut the fuck up lmao even the parents of the dead kids are making it political. It's a political issue whether they like it or not, any notice how the people saying to show some "respect to the families" and stop talking about gun control so early are the same ones screaming "FUCK POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!!!"
Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
Yes, obviously, how could anyone disagree with you? You've got the answers for everything at your doorstep.
agreed.



Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
"Kids of the parents politicizing their deaths" And???? The ironic thing is that if these kids died in a car crash, nobody would care as much as they do right now. Be real, you don't care how they died, you along with a lot of other people are just politicizing it because of guns because you have the chance to. Putting the issue of gun control aside, if people really cared about life, they'd take other leading causes of death in children more seriously. I'm not saying that I agree with having semi-automatic weapons, because they have no use and you can use non-semi automatics to protect yourself.
But I do care, that's just an attempt by you to try and dehumanize me and imply I lack sympathy to try and strengthen your argument. And want to provide me an example of something that takes away human life that isn't being taken seriously? I can't think of any, cancer, famine, aids, billions of dollars being invested to try and prevent deaths.



Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
Somehow 17 people being killed went from a tragic situation to somehow Trump being blamed and a large debate about guns. If you guys really have an issue with guns don't fucking wait until someone gets killed? Everyone's out here right now pushing their agendas but at this point it's not about the people who died because people are talking about political shit instead like gun control.

It's disgusting that people's lives are being used as political ammo.
Sometimes I really question if you're legitimately retarded, the gun debate has been happening for decades lol. Nobody is "waiting", it only makes sense that you'll hear more gun debates if a mass shooting happens lol? Does this not register? By the way, the vast majority of people aren't "blaming trump", they blame congress for doing nothing. People will ridicule his response but certainly most people aren't blaming him (ironically the same way Trump criticized Obama over the mass shootings that happened during his presidency).It's always going to be political because it's a political issue lol, so much for "Fuck political correctness" I guess? Same people crying that we are too PC are crying that we shouldn't debate something as important as gun control huh?

Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
It's disgusting that people's lives are being used as political ammo.
Nah, that's just you trying to look like you have some sort of moral superiority over everybody. Debate shouldn't be censored by people who get butthurt, gun control has been an issue for decades and I refuse to have someone tell me we shouldn't have this discussion "Because people died" LOL.

Here are some wise words from one of the victims

"Why would it be too early to talk about gun control? I say it's too late. Pulse shouldn't have happened. Sandy Hook shouldn't have happened. MSD shouldn't have happened. It was already too late 70 years ago, and it's overdue now. "

https://twitter.com/car_nove/status/964662640961294338

I refuse to let political correctness stop me from having discussion, how about you?

Edit: You also take issue with some people going at Trump, what do you expect? He claims that there's mental health issues in the US but his government made cuts to mental health funding. Search it up.
Let's take a moment to remember these 17 people who were shot and killed in the Florida High School Shooting this past week instead of arguing with one another.
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