Abortion.

Originally Posted by Empire

What the problem is that anti-abortionist don't support the family, they are just assholes who say "this is wrong" then leave.

/ truth

Originally Posted by Empire

People still have been recorded feeling pain while in a coma.

/ true dat

Originally Posted by Empire

What the problem is that anti-abortionist don't support the family, they are just assholes who say "this is wrong" then leave.

If there is people that does such a thing, giving advice or saying it's wrong without explaining why and not give a good explanation for why the're saying it, those people are clearly idiots. Couldn't agree more with you.

I am against abortion in all situations (exept spontaneous abortion of course), but I would never ever get involved in other peoples choises and difficulties with these issues, unless they are asking for my opinion and advice. But then I would of course have something solid to argument about.

Originally Posted by Locke

If there is people that does such a thing, giving advice or saying it's wrong without explaining why and not give a good explanation for why the're saying it, those people are clearly idiots. Couldn't agree more with you.

I am against abortion in all situations (exept spontaneous abortion of course), but I would never ever get involved in other peoples choises and difficulties with these issues, unless they are asking for my opinion and advice. But then I would of course have something solid to argument about.

Its not saying its wrong or giving the explanation. Its actually helping.

Ethics are useless without action.

Originally Posted by Empire

Its not saying its wrong or giving the explanation. Its actually helping.

Ethics are useless without action.

You're against murder. You think it is ethically or morally wrong. However, I don't see you giving money to the dead's relatives, neither do I see you jumping in front of people to save their lifes.

To be ethical is to know what is right and what is wrong. Now, if it were 'to do what's right' then just freaking admit it. We don't live in an ethical society.

E.g. Say someone in the forum is against war. I don't like to bet that much, but if I had to I'd say he/she doesn't march in front of the White House against war.

Originally Posted by Sir Nathan

You're against murder. You think it is ethically or morally wrong. However, I don't see you giving money to the dead's relatives, neither do I see you jumping in front of people to save their lifes.

To be ethical is to know what is right and what is wrong. Now, if it were 'to do what's right' then just freaking admit it. We don't live in an ethical society.

E.g. Say someone in the forum is against war. I don't like to bet that much, but if I had to I'd say he/she doesn't march in front of the White House against war.

And here we go with the re-cycle.

Look, you think abortion is murder for some reason. We don't. I personally think you have no clue the severity of murder compared to abortion which in all regards is completely different than murder in the sense we humans understand it.

The fact that people are against abortion is fine. The fact that they think it matters is fine.

But it doesn't. Abortions can be done with a simple coat hanger. And i'm not gonna lie, letting business support abortion is better than it not.

1. People don't die from bad abortion practice.
2. Economically its good.
3. If they are going to do it anyway, might as well have it in your home country so that everyone prospers.

Outlawing abortion is also pointless. You might as well outlaw PMS, condoms(contraceptives) and sex too.

But hey. If your against it fine. Don't do it. Leave people to their own decisions in life. They have just as much right to do it than to not.

The way I see it is, it's murder. This is just my view, and has nothing to do with my religious background.

I think that if someone doesn't want a child, or is too young to be able to properly care for a child, they should put the child up for adoption. I know the whole rape scenario is arguable too, but the child should not be punished for something that isn't the mothers fault and is the result of a deranged psycho.

But, I also believe people should have the choice. I mean, I wouldn't do it myself, but that shouldn't stop someone else from making their choice.

Originally Posted by Annullo

The way I see it is, it's murder. This is just my view, and has nothing to do with my religious background.

I think that if someone doesn't want a child, or is too young to be able to properly care for a child, they should put the child up for adoption. I know the whole rape scenario is arguable too, but the child should not be punished for something that isn't the mothers fault and is the result of a deranged psycho.

How is it murder if the fetus isn't alive?
The fetus doesn't even grow normal brain functions until about 3-5 months into pregnancy.

That may be so, but it is still an organism that has the ability to live. I'm only throwing out my view on this. People are entitled to think what they want.

Originally Posted by Annullo

That may be so, but it is still an organism that has the ability to live. I'm only throwing out my view on this. People are entitled to think what they want.

But your opinion is wrong. And trust me, I know what an opinion is.
(kidding, obviously)

You live in America, correct?
...Are you a Democrat?

Originally Posted by bowlcut

But your opinion is wrong. And trust me, I know what an opinion is.
(kidding, obviously)

You live in America, correct?
...Are you a Democrat?

I like you. You can talk about a pretty "ballsy" subject, and not have to quickly bounce back with an elitist reply. Thank you for that. ^^

As to your questions:

Yes, I am American.
No, I am not a Democrat.

Originally Posted by Annullo

I like you. You can talk about a pretty "ballsy" subject, and not have to quickly bounce back with an elitist reply. Thank you for that. ^^

As to your questions:

Yes, I am American.
No, I am not a Democrat.

I hate reading, so I avoid long comments.

Republican?

I've never met an anti-abortion Republican.

Originally Posted by bowlcut

I hate reading, so I avoid long comments.

Republican?

I've never met an anti-abortion Republican.

Hi, my name is Jordan. Registered Republican, and anti-abortionist. Pleased to meet you.

Actually, most Rebulicans I know are Pro-Life (New life should only be taken when the mother's health is in immediate danger, or other more "justified" reasons.)

Originally Posted by Annullo

Hi, my name is Jordan. Registered Republican, and anti-abortionist. Pleased to meet you.

Actually, most Rebulicans I know are Pro-Life (New life should only be taken when the mother's health is in immediate danger, or other more "justified" reasons.)

I'm a Republican as well, but only because they annoy me less.
I think both parties are a bit screwy, though.

ANYWAY...

If they really don't want a child, they can use the "morning after" pill (AKA emergency contraceptive pills).

Originally Posted by bowlcut

I'm a Republican as well, but only because they annoy me less.
I think both parties are a bit screwy, though.

ANYWAY...

If they really don't want a child, they can use the "morning after" pill (AKA emergency contraceptive pills).

Lol, you aren't the only one they annoy less.

And I have no problem with the Morning After Pill.

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