Evolution

I'll just leave this here, for the lulz.

"We come to the twentieth century. Mendel's work with plants is rediscovered. Fischer and Wright do population studies. Pretty soon we know genes control heredity-whatever genes are. Remember, through the first half of the century, all during World War I and World War II, nobody had any idea what a gene was. After Watson and Crick in 1953, we knew that genes were nucleotides arranged in a double helix. Great. And we knew about mutation. So by the late twentieth century, we have a theory of natural selection which says that mutations arise spontaneously in genes, that the environment favors the mutations that are beneficial, and out of this selection process evolution occurs. It's simple and straightforward. God is not at work. No higher organizing principle involved. In the end, evolution is just the result of a bunch of mutations that either Survive or die. Right?"

I never tried acting like a "smart ass". Keep bringing up I made a spelling mistake as if that one thing would bring down everything that I have said. Claimed we "people" were all ignorant on the subject, then refuse to give an opinion even though you claim you debated on this topic many times before. Then take 3 random quotes out of the thread and then somehow conclude that they make up the majority of the peoples opinions here. Great go spam somewhere else. By the way I am pretty sure the first one was a joke.

Would you like to point out these 6 out of 15 people? It was? Perhaps someone might take my comment a different way then you have. Some people might have a different view of something then yourself. Instead of claiming everyone here has no clue what there talking about. Perhaps you can give the time to ask them to simply explain what it is they believe in and why. Alas no, you seem to have a very close minded view of the subject. As if your one sided view on the world is the only correct one. For example, when I asked you to give your opinion you kept dodging it. Still waiting on your opinion by the way, witch you for some reason that I can't fathom, you seem reluctant to give. Even though you claim you have debated on this subject many time before. I really can't figure out why you wont. Perhaps you get some sort of superiority feeling from belittling others views. Then refuse to give your own as it was so obvious that only a buffoon couldn't figure it out.

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Possibly six if we take into account that Cyberdyne's initial argument was weird.

That's six people that showed no tiny hint that they know what evolution really is.

This thread is about whether or not you believe in evolution. I said you said that nobody here had a clue what they were talking about. No, you did not point out a few selected people every time. You gave 3 quotes and then somehow made the assumptions that those 3 people make up the majority of the opinions here. You even admitted that you didn't read everyone's posts, so how you made that assumption I don't know. You again doge my question. I don't have an opinion on evolution. I didn't claim I knew. I didn't claim that I debated 100's of times about it. I didn't claim the people here had no clue what they were talking about.

Alen quoted poison twice so that's 4 the forth one seems like a joke, so that's 3, the second one simply said he didn't believe in evolution, so that's 2. He also said that they must not have an understanding about evolution, simply because they don't agree with him. Like I have said before just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't make them an idiot. You don't have to master something, to have a basic understanding of it. For example, I don't know how to cook a hamburger perfectly, but I know enough about cooking to not burn or undercook it. Same applies to evolution or anything for that matter. As long as you have a basic grasp of what the theory is trying to say, you can form an opinion about. Whether it is right or wrong is another matter. I don't dismiss peoples theory's or opinions. What I do is try to understand what they believe. Point out any flaws in their theory. Then hopefully they can correct and educate themselves. All im trying to say here is don't be so quick to dismiss anyone's opinions.

What the hell are you talking about? My argument was not weird simply because I posted the wrong article and couldn't edit it afterwards. Of course I know what evolution is, I'm a microbiologist.

In fact, I'll give you the meaning of what evolution is considered to be. Atleast in the field of science.

Evolution, is the process by which species change gradually over time. It arises from processes of selection that favor individuals having certain favorable traits over those lacking those favorable traits.

There are three parts to Darwin's theory.

1. Principle of variation
2. Principle of heredity
3. Principle of selection

All of which you should have studied in school (Biology class)

Hence "possibly" and I wasn't trying to prove anyone wrong, I was merely listing the possibly candidates for the "6 people who got it wrong" or w/e.

Right...well, you should change that to 5 candidates. I know what I'm talking about.

Believe? Evolution doesn't require belief. You either accept it or you do not. 'Belief' implies that evolution is subject to someone's personal interpretation of reality and as such its veracity is grounds for speculation, and this is far from being the case. The debate has been over for a while and we're just underlining the facts for everyone else now.

I think a better question would be: Do you understand evolution?