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First of all, what is the longest time you have been working for a single project? I'd say mine is 3 months, then gave up

Second, fuhuck.

I'm taking Computer Science next year, and I just recently found out that they use Java. (I heard they might even use python) Fuck.

I started programming C, then C++ 5 years ago, so naturally that is my preference, and so far have been programming 16-bit x86 assembly for the past few months, so I will always be a lower level language boy at heart, and just the thought of being forced to use Java/Python makes me sick.

Don't feel like dropping the class, considering it will be an easy 5.0 straight to my GPA. Also considering I'm only in highschool, it will probably be easy too. No challenge = no fun

I dislike python quite a bit, just like I dislike Java, but I guess there is no choice

/discuss

I'm taking AP Computer Science next year too

I'm taking Intro To Java this year, because I had too in order to take that course

Well, it took me 5 months to get a working OS to boot but I wouldn't say I took a whole 5 months, just kept giving up and coming back to it months later.

i thought you died patrick

Originally Posted by Void

Well, it took me 5 months to get a working OS to boot but I wouldn't say I took a whole 5 months, just kept giving up and coming back to it months later.

i thought you died patrick

no, not dead yet

I haven't coded anything in a while. The last thing I made was just a simple timer in C because I couldn't find anything as simple as I wanted. I didn't need any of those cool features, just a minute and second countdown, so that was the last thing I made xD

I'm planning on picking up one of my old big projects and rewriting it from scratch again (how many times have I done this? xD) and have something impressive to show next year.

My main problem is I start off with too much of a vision, rather than starting small and working up.

whatever.

Either way, not dead yet

I remember when the programming section used to be a lot more active, that was like 2.5 years ago

ah, good times

Originally Posted by Virtual Void

I'm taking Computer Science next year, and I just recently found out that they use Java. (I heard they might even use python) Fuck.

/discuss

Suck it up cockfag. Most universities/colleges have Java as the primary language in the curriculum. It's a high-level, platform independent language so go figure why they want to introduce it to people who are assumed to have zero-to-very-little programming knowledge. You just have to deal with it. Everyone knows I hate Java with a burning passion found in the very depths of Mordor, but I got through it.

In reality you'll spend very little time programming in Java to complete 90% of the first-year projects (because you already have programming experience), at least that's what I found. I'd start the major projects the week they were due and smash them out as fast as I could, then get back to programming in whatever language I was into at the time.

Get used to being forced out of your comfort zone, though; look at it as practice for the real world. Hell, at work I pretty much exclusively work with ColdFusion (which is a script-esque language built on top of Java, so fuck everything), but you just have to deal with it. The more languages you know, the better. Java is a piece of cunt but sadly it's still one of the more popular languages. If your CS course is anything like mine has been, you won't be locked into Java forever anyway. My last couple of projects were in C/C++/PHP, haven't used Java in months.

Don't even be tempted to drop the whole course just because they're teaching Java/Python. Python can be useful, been meaning to learn it for a while actually. Plus once you get the Java syntax down, you never need to think about it until you actually have a project that needs to be done in Java, then it's just a matter of funnelling your programming knowledge down the shit-pipe known as Java, getting the work done and passing so you never need to use it again

As for longest project, no idea, I haven't taken on any massive projects really. Probably a couple of weeks is the most I've worked on anything.

Maybe a week

I never had any ideas of larger projects

I need ideas

thanks

I for one, welcome our new higher level languages...but I still hate Java. I hate it so much.
I was able to save a friend from the horrors of Java. He did Java for a while, told him to do C#. He loves C# way more than Java.

I don't get all the language hate. I mean really it's just a programming language, they all have their purposes. Low level programming needs low level languages, and high level programming doesn't necessarily need high level languages but it's smart to use them because it requires less work. I think it makes much more sense to dislike a language or framework for being full of vulnerabilities like Java and RoR, than to hate it simply because it's not what you're used to.

Originally Posted by cfsharp

Because there are many direct substitutes for Java, all of which are better.

Because C is the God's programming language

All jokes aside, Jason pretty much summed it up. A language like C# totally destroys Java, aside from the fact that it isn't multiplatform. But Mono is getting better and most people uses windows anyways

This is why I took Electrical and Computer engineering. They don't screw around with Java\Python, we go straight to VHDL, C, C++, assembly. Which really are the only useful languages to a Computer engineer. I mean, you won't be writing drivers\kernels in Python or Java any time soon (not impossible to do though). Arguably, python is very useful for prototyping a design.

That said, because the code is written to be placed on microcontrollers\FPGAs\PLDs, it is usually _REALLY_ low-level code.

I would argue that C# is multi-platform at this point (technically it always has been.) Most C# projects release their software and link to both the MS .Net framework and mono. Mono has become really quite popular.

For something to be single-platform, it has to be compiled for specifically that platform. We all know that .Net applications are (typically) compiled into bytecode and then JIT assembled to code native to the platform it resides to.

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