
Originally Posted by
Empire
Pfft, you think only rich people paid the tax? Oh boy you are so far up your ass with this apologist act its shameful.
Nowhere does it say that btw, nice try!
Jizya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
-The actual amount varies depending upon rule, but it was rather expensive.
-If you refused it was imprisonment or enslavement.
-Yeah, slavery again!
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The difference between zakat and jizya:
Zakat is a part of Islamic tradition, such as the tithe in christianity/judaism.
Jizya is an islamic law against non-muslims.
Also Jizya is enforced on conquered cities.
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Let me put this in words even you can understand
1. Muslim army conquers a city.
2. Muslim army forces a tax on the conquered city.
3. You have an option, pay the tax or convert.
4. The tax goes to help muslims and their armies.
5. The tax does not go for protection, as their conquerers were the ones who ATTACKED them.
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Seriously, just think for once redspot. If some country invaded your country, conquered it, and then set up a tax that you have to pay with the option to convert to scientology, wouldn't you think it wrong?
I know how hard it is for Muslims to admit a wrongdoing but this is pretty black and white here.
Once again the Muslims paid more money than those who paid the Jizya by paying the Zaka, And in addition to that Muslims HAD to fight in the army and serve in it.
on the other side, Tell me why is it bad when Islam conquer a country or part of land just to make it better, Al-Andalus for example, got conquered by the Muslims at the beginning of the 7th century, they ruled it for over 800 years, and the Christians there were allowed to practice their religion freely if they stay with the agreement that they made with the Muslims and pay the Jizya, and that agreement was not to betray the muslims and stab them in the back.
in these 800 years the Muslims turned that region into a heaven on earth.
Muslims also conquered cities without fights, by giving the leaders of those cities 2 options, either to fight and if you lose we take everything or you can live in your city under our rule and you just pay the Jizya and promise not to betray us. and most of the people preferred the second option.
Also this; The Jizya in the Bible !
Book of Genisis : "[49:15] When he sees how good is his resting placeand how pleasant is his land,he will bend his shoulder to the burden and submit to forced labor."
Book of Judges : "[1:28] When Israel became strong, they pressed the Canaanites into forced labor but never drove them out completely."
Book of Ezra : "[4:13] Furthermore, the king should know that if this city is built and its walls are restored, no more taxes, tribute or duty will be paid, and eventually the royal revenues will suffer."[31:8] Assyria will fall by no human sword; a sword, not of mortals, will devour them.They will flee before the sword and their young men will be put to forced labor."
Book of Matthew : "[17:25] “Yes, he does,” he replied. When Peter came into the house, Jesus was the first to speak. “What do you think, Simon?” he asked. “From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes—from their own children or from others?”
Bet you didn't know that there is that kind of tax in your religion as well but your blind enough to not see it.
let me clear one point out, the Jizya isn't pay or convert to Islam, its if you turn into Islam you will pay more than that, and danger your life by serving in the army.