Originally Posted by Rance-Sama
Is? He sorta got a downgrade. He's been OP long before he was revived...
Originally Posted by Rance-Sama
Naruto Chapter 656
Originally Posted by Rance-Sama
Originally Posted by Ryzeros.
Really? Didn't know he got a downgrade. Didn't really watch Manga.
Well just wait till next week, hopefully it is explained.
The obsession kishi has with bringing back people from the dead(in one way or another) is kind of unhealthy.
The obsession kishi has with bringing back people from the dead(in one way or another) is kind of unhealthy.
Originally Posted by demon204
Last time i checked in this manga/anime fear doesnt make 1 stronger. Just makes them piss their pants member sasuke vs orochimaru in the chunin exams. Protecting someone and hating someone makes them stronger. XD
P.s. wth would the dark knight rises have to do with this? Last time i checked Bruce wasnt in fear of him. He was scared that his city would burn while he does nothing in that cell. He also trained like shet. He didn't just get buffed from fearing that.
P.s. wth would the dark knight rises have to do with this? Last time i checked Bruce wasnt in fear of him. He was scared that his city would burn while he does nothing in that cell. He also trained like shet. He didn't just get buffed from fearing that.
Originally Posted by scotbud123
You don't remember the quote? About Bruce's lack of fear making him weaker. When you're afraid of death you fight even harder because you know that a mistake is going to end up with you dying. When he was in Edo form he knew he could fuck up as much as he wanted to, because he would just regenerate.
Originally Posted by scotbud123
You don't remember the quote? About Bruce's lack of fear making him weaker. When you're afraid of death you fight even harder because you know that a mistake is going to end up with you dying. When he was in Edo form he knew he could fuck up as much as he wanted to, because he would just regenerate.
Originally Posted by demon204
He wasn't afraid of dying. Or feared dying. He feared that his city would burn < he even said this. U need to rewatch the movie. Plus he didn't just get stronger by fear he trained like constantly. There was even a scene where we see him doing push up and pull ups.
Originally Posted by Rance-Sama
Seems pretty stupid when you're comparing Madara to Bruce. Because in Bruce's case it's his perception while Madara really has been debuffed quite a bit.
Originally Posted by scotbud123
I was just using that as one example, this idea has been in countless stories, because it's true. Fear is what makes you re-act faster. "Fight or Flight", go look it up.
Originally Posted by scotbud123
I think you may need to re-watch it. He couldn't make the jump until he took the safety harness off and knew that it was succeed or die.
I was just using that as one example, this idea has been in countless stories, because it's true. Fear is what makes you re-act faster. "Fight or Flight", go look it up.
I was just using that as one example, this idea has been in countless stories, because it's true. Fear is what makes you re-act faster. "Fight or Flight", go look it up.
Originally Posted by demon204
It didn't matter if he took it off or not because if he didn't train like he did with those push up chances are he would of failed again. He didn't use a harness because he know that if he failed 1 more time the city would get destroyed and he will even die.
This doesn't mean that his physical therapy didn't help, he had his back broken, of course it did. But the reason he made the JUMP is because of fear.
Originally Posted by scotbud123
That has to be the most stupid thing I have ever heard, I'm sorry. He wanted to save the city from jump #1, the reason he did it then was because he took the harness off and he knew that missing would = death. It's a natural human reaction, go look up "Fight or Flight". (They even said it in the movie lol).
This doesn't mean that his physical therapy didn't help, he had his back broken, of course it did. But the reason he made the JUMP is because of fear.
This doesn't mean that his physical therapy didn't help, he had his back broken, of course it did. But the reason he made the JUMP is because of fear.
<p.s.batman arkham orgin is awesome game get it if u dont have it.
Originally Posted by demon204
He started training cause of the tv (< doesn't make sense why would they put a tv down there) It motivated him since he saw dead bodies hanging on the bridge. Also batman fearing death is unlikely. Play lots of batman games and read the comic u will see he doesn't care for his life much just not in his character. The second batman game he was poisoned and he still went to find someone than seek the antidote 1st.
<p.s.batman arkham orgin is awesome game get it if u dont have it.
<p.s.batman arkham orgin is awesome game get it if u dont have it.
And you obviously don't get the Nolan trilogy if you just said that, it's meant to be a more realistic take on Batman. He doesn't fear death as much in the comics because he has the "LOL I HAVE THIS SPECIAL PIECE OF TECH THAT DOES WHATEVER I WANT" power to bail him out of almost anything.
The Arkham games are also their own universe, you don't seem to understand what an adaptation is, but that's OK.
And I did play AO like a month ago.
Originally Posted by scotbud123
Bane put it down there so he could see what was happening to Gotham...
And you obviously don't get the Nolan trilogy if you just said that, it's meant to be a more realistic take on Batman. He doesn't fear death as much in the comics because he has the "LOL I HAVE THIS SPECIAL PIECE OF TECH THAT DOES WHATEVER I WANT" power to bail him out of almost anything.
The Arkham games are also their own universe, you don't seem to understand what an adaptation is, but that's OK.
And I did play AO like a month ago.
And you obviously don't get the Nolan trilogy if you just said that, it's meant to be a more realistic take on Batman. He doesn't fear death as much in the comics because he has the "LOL I HAVE THIS SPECIAL PIECE OF TECH THAT DOES WHATEVER I WANT" power to bail him out of almost anything.
The Arkham games are also their own universe, you don't seem to understand what an adaptation is, but that's OK.
And I did play AO like a month ago.
Im still playing ao trying to find all intel(people who check utube suck) by myself and get all achievements meh.
Originally Posted by demon204
His infinite tsukuyomi plan wouldn't work if hes dead <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Even if he took over Obitos body hes no longer the jinchuriki
He has to recapture all of the tailed beasts and reseal them. Not to mention facing the 1st/2nd/3rd/4th hokage who are deathless.
We are debating this cause this thread is about chapter 656. Which left many unanswered questions such as how he can get stronger by being alive.
Last time i checked in this manga/anime fear doesnt make 1 stronger. Just makes them piss their pants member sasuke vs orochimaru in the chunin exams. Protecting someone and hating someone makes them stronger. XD
P.s. wth would the dark knight rises have to do with this? Last time i checked Bruce wasnt in fear of him. He was scared that his city would burn while he does nothing in that cell. He also trained like shet. He didn't just get buffed from fearing that.
Even if he took over Obitos body hes no longer the jinchuriki
He has to recapture all of the tailed beasts and reseal them. Not to mention facing the 1st/2nd/3rd/4th hokage who are deathless.
We are debating this cause this thread is about chapter 656. Which left many unanswered questions such as how he can get stronger by being alive.
Last time i checked in this manga/anime fear doesnt make 1 stronger. Just makes them piss their pants member sasuke vs orochimaru in the chunin exams. Protecting someone and hating someone makes them stronger. XD
P.s. wth would the dark knight rises have to do with this? Last time i checked Bruce wasnt in fear of him. He was scared that his city would burn while he does nothing in that cell. He also trained like shet. He didn't just get buffed from fearing that.
Originally Posted by Rance-Sama
It's not a new jutsu, they are just going to take the chakra from the 10 tails and reflect tsukuyomi on the moon. It's supposed to need a lot of chakra which once again leads us to "why didn't he just use it before?" considering he had unlimited chakra. Or why doesn't he use it at all on the alliance? So many plots holes because of bad writing.
Originally Posted by bustersbss
That doesn't make sense to me. You guys are debating something that is irrelevant to the Arc completely. You're are debating whether he should have stayed a Edo-Tensei or alive; his entire plan is predicated on him being alive. So debating whether he is stronger as an Edo-Tensei or alive has nothing to do with the chapter, because he needed to be alive anyway.
You're wrong. You don't reflect the Tsukuyomi off of the moon, but you're Mangekyo Sharingan itself is reflected. This allows you to cast a Tsukuyomi that will affect the entire world. Also, the Ten-Tails is an intergral part of the plan. The jutsu wasn't explained enough telling us why. It isn't that you "need a lot of chakra"; you need the Ten-Tails to actually make it work.
You're wrong. You don't reflect the Tsukuyomi off of the moon, but you're Mangekyo Sharingan itself is reflected. This allows you to cast a Tsukuyomi that will affect the entire world. Also, the Ten-Tails is an intergral part of the plan. The jutsu wasn't explained enough telling us why. It isn't that you "need a lot of chakra"; you need the Ten-Tails to actually make it work.
I think they were talking more about VS. Naruto's gang than the implementation of the "moon's eye plan", which does seem to follow the naruto pattern of "just because" for rituals....
If It makes the moon your eye, then I would love to see a giant ameratsu lol.
