False Ban

I don't get it, I did not vouch for Oblix on his thread. I did not vouch for my own thread too.
Most of my vouches on my thread are premium/old members if not all? I didn't pay anyone to vouch for me, I only asked them to kindly leave a vouch after selling them an item and this is not against the rules.

This is my profile: https://www.mpgh.net/forum/member.php?u=4972548

This is my thread: https://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1369856

I clearly did not post anything on Oblix thread as a vouch. o.O

Hey buddy, I think you are mistaking me with someone else or you didn't check any of my threads.
I will try to make this simple as possible to make it easier for you to believe that we are not the same person.

Okay so, first of all let's start with the links for you to check because I'm sure you didn't check my threads:

My profile: Pharaoh Gifting Center Profile
My main thread: Pharaoh's Main RP Selling Thread

Oblix's thread: Oblix Steam Shop

Evidence 1:
-Oblix sells steam games for 50% off the original price. I never sold steam games and I never opened a shop, he told me the idea, but I never opened a shop because it was kinda confusing for me.

-I sell League of Legends RP gifts and that is nothing related to steam games at all. League of Legends RP gifts takes a lot of time because I have to open League at certain times to send gifts and I don't think I can run any other store next to it except selling LEague of Legends accounts every now and then.

-About the thread designs, you should take another look at my thread and Oblix's thread, there is nothing at all with our thread design, not even a close one. I only use [table] for my thread design since I suck with photoshop and he doesn't use it at all in his thread. I can't seem to find one single thing in common in our thread design, however it's totally fine if me and someone else on MPGH share the same thread design since I can link you with hundreds of threads right now that shares the same thread design with me.

Conclusion: Obviously I'm not Oblix, maybe you didn't take a look at my thread or you are mistaking me with someone else, but yeah nothing that I sell, thread design or anything on my store is related to Oblix store.

Evidence 2:

I want you to take a look at Oblix's posts time and look at my posts time, well normally no human being can stay up 24 hours while having a job right? Exactly why we're not the same person, My bump is obviously very late at night and his activity is early at day because I have a job at day time and I spare rest of my time on MPGH very late at night, while he stays up at day because he has no job IRL.

Evidence 3:
Sharing the same IP address 6 times is nothing to be banned for at all. He is my friend IRL and I have known him for years, he lives in the next building and he knows my Wifi password, in the previous days my router was restarting because the wire was welded and we might have shared a couple of IPs together because when my router was not working, I used his Wifi and vice versa, which is something we are used to since we were 18. I have read many other ban appeals and what is stated is that the IP address alone is not something to be looked at if you want to know if he is the same person at all because obviously we can be a group of 4 roommates living in the same apartment and sharing the same IP, like Lily said the IP address wasn't the only thing looked at, but so far what you are saying here is you only looked at the IP address, nothing else.

Evidence 4:
A quick snap from the chat between me and Oblix like 1 month ago, we have a huge chat so if you wanna take another look, please send me a private message we have a chat ongoing from 2017 till now, but I'm lazy to keep scrolling, so if you wanna see the full chat, you can send me a private message and I will send you the chat cuz I can't post it here for private reasons.

[IMG]https://image.ibb.co/hamGiK/*******2.jpg[/IMG]

You must be asking? What can confirm that Dodger is you?
Well, I have talked to several people on there long time ago before the rule was added, but one of them is @cake and he can confirm that it's me.

Evidence 5:
WEll, the IM chat plays a HUGE part of this, but I can't access it anymore so if you can check the chat on IM, the easiest thing you can do is checking the chat history between me and Oblix, we also have a big chat history and yeah, I'm not that type of a free guy to keep talking to "myself" for hours, no thanks I don't do this. I'm also 100% sure you will find us talking to people or accepting payments or sending payments in the same exact time because we are pretty active.

Final conclusion is if you check the previous evidence, I'm sure Smoke will also come to the conclusion that we are not the same person creating several accounts. Like I said I'm not responsible at all for anything that Oblix has done or will do in the future because simply through Smoke's point of view if I want to get a friend of mine banned and I know him IRL, the only thing I have to do is logging in a random account from his IP address a couple of times, creating a thread with the same design? (which is not even valid, you can check the two threads.) and then reporting him from another account? But luckily I have evidence here so I hope you read it.

Another thing is the first question you should have though about: Why would he create two accounts if the first account already got reputation and posts? Like I know people creating many accounts to vouch/bump for themselves, but not reputable ones obviously? Also, another question is why did I not vouch/bump on my own Pharaoh Gifting Center thread then? Answer is obvious here because we're not the same person. Thank you in advance.

Edit: I didn't deny that we share the same IP address, Smoke. You can clearly see that I have admitted that we sometimes share the same IP address in my previous reply. @Smoke

Woah woah, did you even read what I said? YOU are actually making alll my points valid, sharing the same IP address is nothing at all, posting twice is nothing at all that can proves we are one person, you should ask yourself the questions I said above and also you did not answer what I said above, first Lily said only the IP addresses is not a thing to provide we are one person, then you said "also the thread designs" now you are changing your mind to the IP addresses again and a "reply"?

I need someone higher to handle this since Smoke obviously can't read what I said above and he keeps changed his excuses twice.
@Hero

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Haha, okay seems like actually Smoke knows that we are not the same person, but still he just insists on banning me to avoid reading what I said and saving himself some time.



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One last thing. If @Dave84311 checks the chatlog of user @Pharaoh Gifting Center and @oblix he can obviously see that we are not the same person at all.
Please, review this dispute since Smoke is refusing to read what I said above and he is making an invalid point making a "reply" and an "IP" a valid reason to ban, also making things up by saying that we both sell the same thing and share the same thread design which is obviously a lie made up by Smoke.
@Dave84311 @arunforce

Your points are completely irrelevant to what I said and by replying more, you prove more that you did not read my previous replies and you are just trying to make an excuse for this invalid ban.

Yes, you are insisting on banning me even though I provided you VALID evidence that if any staff member looks at will obviously come to a conclusion that we are not the same person.

"Thanks for admitting your Oblix"
Where did I admit that I'm Oblix? I never said I'm Oblix or we are the same person, I'm saying you insisted on banning me as "PHARAOH" not as "Oblix" which is obviously what you are doing right now, insisting on banning me for no reason at all except that we shared the same IP address.

Okay so, first of all if you check the previous ban appeals regarding stuff like this, there are other things taken in mind too while handling this kind of bans not only the IP address. I totally understand that you banned me for the reason that we are sharing the same IP address because you thought (still tho) we are the same person, but after providing evidence and after making "VALID POINTS" above and after the questions I have asked you that you did not even read, then you should think about it again and come to a conclusion that there is nothing says that we are the same person. Sharing the same IP's is completely fine and we have been sharing the same IP's for years which is not against the rules since we are not the same person, the IP's proves nothing.

" if you're under the same IP you're counted as one person if the person breaks the rules and is banned."

So simply if I want to get my IRL friend banned, as I have stated in my previous post also, is creating a new accounts, logging in from his IP and breaking a rule? So you do not look at anything else except his IP, you totally ignore the IM chat evidence, the other chat evidence like other banned platforms we use to chat, you totally ignore that we were talking to 5-10 people in the same time and keeping up with all the chats (No human being can do so obviously.) and sending/receiving money in the same time, sending the items to the buyers and finally that we are online in totally different times like I stated above?

Please, read my previous reply and think about it because your points are completely irrelevant. I have no idea how a moderator judges on a ban by saying "You literally said "he insisted on banning ME" thanks for admitting your Oblix."?

I will wait for @Dave84311 or @Hero to check the IM Chat or review this ban because you are obviously not taking my points into consideration and you do not want to prove yourself wrong.

Not even relevant at all to my ban, you are giving information that every single user here knows about, but there is one thing that you are wrong at "so i know what's "ban-worthy"" no, you don't not all the times, we all make mistakes even if you are the first staff member here, you are not immune to mistakes and I'm totally sure if you re-read what I said, re-think about it, you will come to a conclusion that you are wrong here.

Of course it didn't work out because 100% of people who use it as an excuse are obviously lying, but there is a difference here which you are completely blind to.
THIS IS A FACT, not an excuse, a fact is backed up with a lot of evidence like I have proven above, but the excuse is just a couple of words with no evidence at all to back it up which is not my case at all and not even close to it.

I don't think you get it bud. My case here is not the 1 month ban that I got for no reason at all even before you check any evidence and lying on the ban (lying is a bannable offense you know that yourself) by saying that we sell the same thing and we "share the same thread design" what an excuse to ban someone bud. My case here is that I'm not the same person, I'm not responsible for his actions and he is not responsible for mine in any way only because he used the same IP as mine.
Also if lying on a dispute is a bannable offense, you should be the first one who gets banned because you obviously lied in your first reply to the thread stating that "we sell the same thing" and "we share the same thread design" without checking ANY of them and without taking a 5 minutes investigation our profiles OR even asking Dave to check the chat logs or asking me for any proof. I'm not lying here or making excuses, If I were then I would have waited for my 1 month ban like Oblix, because he does know that he has done something wrong, but I didn't.
@Dave84311 @Hero Please, read my replies and check the IM chat, our threads and check Smoke's replies before coming to any decision.

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About your "thread design" excuse, I can send you 14 threads sharing the same thread design and selling the same thing even, but they are still not banned?

In my case, I did not even use any thread design, I only use [table] bb code and Oblix didn't, I would also like to know how are we sharing the same thread design (We are not at all, two totally different threads.) and how is it something that concerns you to ban me?

Last thing is that we do not sell the same thing at all, he sells steam games and I sell League of Legends items as stated above, I have no idea how you came up with the excuse that "oh they have the same thread design (while we don't) and oh they sell the same thing (while we don't).

I understand that you are here before me and I'm kinda new to the website (however I have made $1000+ in sales in a very short period of time), but you should also take in mind that you are a human being and it's fine if you make a mistake by banning someone that you didn't investigate for no reason, but your fault here is by lying on my dispute, providing invalid excuses to back up your invalid ban reason and not reading what I said/Not answering my questions/ignoring them at all.