Question About Moral.
First of all, my native language is portuguese and my english is self taught, so forgive me for my mistakes.
Where i say Hacks, read Hacks, exploits, bugs abuse, OP stuff inside the game, scripting and whatever you can use to give yourself an advantage.
This is not a post like "hacks are bad and you should feel bad for using them", this is a hacking forum, i used hacks all my life, i got banned once, and most people don't even know i was hacking when i killed them, because i have good skills, and use hacks to reach the super skilled level of player, but i live by some rules, and i would like to share/discuss here in a mature way, so please, dont spam the thread with useless hate.
Ok, i said it before, i never use hacks when i am a noob at the game, i always play 1 week or 2 before bothering with any kind of unfair advantage, i have some personal rules that i live by
1-PVE - everything is allowed, 1hit KO, afk farming, item spamming, duping, everything i can find i will use, i hate Grinding, and when i can skip this part i will do without thinking twice.
2-PVP - Here is gets complicated.
2.1 - FPS:
2.1.1 - There ISN'T any characther progression, you just spawn with equal chances, i usualy don't hack when there is no char progression to be achieved, with one exception, if there are too many people hacking, i will go after it too, so i fight fire with fire. In a clean Game where there is nothing to be grinded, and people do not use hacks i will try to keep my game clean.
EX: Counter Strike.
2.2 - RPG - MMORPGs usually mean LOTS AND LOTS of grinding, lvling, farming etc... in these games i always try to find shortcuts to get to the competitive pvp level, and also to get money / Craft gear, i will exploit the game without any pitty. But when it comes to the PVP part i usually don't use anything that will break the game, giving myself an advantage of, lets say, 5-15% bonus damage is ok by me, people can still outplay me (hard to happen), but i won't fell bad, if the guy is really good, i would usually go back to normal and face him on the same level, i like the advantage to go 1v2/1v3, on wow i would sometimes to 1v4 with my Frost Mage (WOTLK).
Ex: WoW, ArchAge,
2.3 Skill Based Games - MOBAs/RTSs. The entire purpose of the game is to face another guy without any kind of advantage, and outplay them, these are games that do not require any kind of grinding, they are entirely based on skill and usually teamwork, i never hacked on any of these, and i think it does break the game, it takes all the fun of it, having a huge advantage here takes the purpose of playing and i would prefer to play against bots, my opinion, yours can and i bet that will, be diferent.
Ex: Dota, Smite, HoN.
My point here is, there is Good Hacking, and Bad Hacking, i think we can use these programs to give ourselves a good time, and not ruin other people experiences, like, it is ok to give yourself gear, and fly, speedhack, 1hitko farm, these do not kill the game for others, but killing everybody just for the sake of doing it, isn't diferent from beating the shit out of the weak kid on the school, and this is a terrible thing to do (again on MY POINT OF VIEW).
I would like to see some responses to this thread, what you guys think? There is "Good" and "Bad" hacking?
Lets keep it constructive and avoid the hating on comments please.
Where i say Hacks, read Hacks, exploits, bugs abuse, OP stuff inside the game, scripting and whatever you can use to give yourself an advantage.
This is not a post like "hacks are bad and you should feel bad for using them", this is a hacking forum, i used hacks all my life, i got banned once, and most people don't even know i was hacking when i killed them, because i have good skills, and use hacks to reach the super skilled level of player, but i live by some rules, and i would like to share/discuss here in a mature way, so please, dont spam the thread with useless hate.
The points i will talk about are :
1- You can hack and keep being a "good" player?
2- What is the point where you start being a "rock in the shoes of the comunity"?
3- How we can make hacking a good experience for us, and do not ruin the game?
4- What kind of games would be bad to use hacks on?
1- You can hack and keep being a "good" player?
2- What is the point where you start being a "rock in the shoes of the comunity"?
3- How we can make hacking a good experience for us, and do not ruin the game?
4- What kind of games would be bad to use hacks on?
Ok, i said it before, i never use hacks when i am a noob at the game, i always play 1 week or 2 before bothering with any kind of unfair advantage, i have some personal rules that i live by
1-PVE - everything is allowed, 1hit KO, afk farming, item spamming, duping, everything i can find i will use, i hate Grinding, and when i can skip this part i will do without thinking twice.
2-PVP - Here is gets complicated.
2.1 - FPS:
2.1.1 - There ISN'T any characther progression, you just spawn with equal chances, i usualy don't hack when there is no char progression to be achieved, with one exception, if there are too many people hacking, i will go after it too, so i fight fire with fire. In a clean Game where there is nothing to be grinded, and people do not use hacks i will try to keep my game clean.
EX: Counter Strike.
2.2 - RPG - MMORPGs usually mean LOTS AND LOTS of grinding, lvling, farming etc... in these games i always try to find shortcuts to get to the competitive pvp level, and also to get money / Craft gear, i will exploit the game without any pitty. But when it comes to the PVP part i usually don't use anything that will break the game, giving myself an advantage of, lets say, 5-15% bonus damage is ok by me, people can still outplay me (hard to happen), but i won't fell bad, if the guy is really good, i would usually go back to normal and face him on the same level, i like the advantage to go 1v2/1v3, on wow i would sometimes to 1v4 with my Frost Mage (WOTLK).
Ex: WoW, ArchAge,
2.3 Skill Based Games - MOBAs/RTSs. The entire purpose of the game is to face another guy without any kind of advantage, and outplay them, these are games that do not require any kind of grinding, they are entirely based on skill and usually teamwork, i never hacked on any of these, and i think it does break the game, it takes all the fun of it, having a huge advantage here takes the purpose of playing and i would prefer to play against bots, my opinion, yours can and i bet that will, be diferent.
Ex: Dota, Smite, HoN.
My point here is, there is Good Hacking, and Bad Hacking, i think we can use these programs to give ourselves a good time, and not ruin other people experiences, like, it is ok to give yourself gear, and fly, speedhack, 1hitko farm, these do not kill the game for others, but killing everybody just for the sake of doing it, isn't diferent from beating the shit out of the weak kid on the school, and this is a terrible thing to do (again on MY POINT OF VIEW).
I would like to see some responses to this thread, what you guys think? There is "Good" and "Bad" hacking?
Lets keep it constructive and avoid the hating on comments please.
Originally Posted by Scotia
