This is a straight up noob question here, so please bear with me.
I've been tryna learn C++ for nearly 2 months now and haven't been quite able to pick hardly anything up. I've heard that VB is a good beginner's language. I just need to know if it can be as powerful as C++ when creating hacks. Can it be?
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no, visual basics is pretty much a learning language. you cannot make hacks with vb for games like combat arms
You can't? This may sound stupid but if MPGH is focused on hacks, then why have VB on here if you can't do any of the sort with it? Just wondering.
No, VB is not as good as for making hacks as C++. You can make some simple hacks, but nothing big. It is a good beginner language though, and is actually a lot more powerful than people realize. Just not in the area of hacking. My advice would be to start learning VB, then start learning some C++ . Just to get the feel of programming.
the way most people use vb is useless, but u can do the same thing in vb as C++ in most ways.
VB.Net is more then capable of anything....
Vb.net (VB,Basic) is not a beginners language, in fact it is no more a beginners language then C++ (C,C#) as all of these languages were developed Post Commercializing PC's for Home and Business Use ,C was Developed as a General-Purpose Language by Dennis for Bell Telephone corporations, it is simplified code, just as B.A.S.I.C was Each Language is as capable...... And each it's own pros and cons
C is more "Seemless" when it comes to Hacks, But Vb.net has endless possibilities, it is understanding there are no real limitations in development, You just need to know what you are doing.
Originally Posted by NextGen1
VB.Net is more then capable of anything....
Vb.net (VB,Basic) is not a beginners language, in fact it is no more a beginners language then C++ (C,C#) as all of these languages were developed Post Commercializing PC's for Home and Business Use ,C was Developed as a General-Purpose Language by Dennis for Bell Telephone corporations, it is simplified code, just as B.A.S.I.C was Each Language is as capable...... And each it's own pros and cons
C is more "Seemless" when it comes to Hacks, But Vb.net has endless possibilities, it is understanding there are no real limitations in development, You just need to know what you are doing.
You know, i was thinking. All languages ( not including web language) can do the same thing the other can, all are just as powerful. Its just the simplicity, and ease of use for different subjects that makes them different. ( by subjects i mean, hack coding, game programing, software development, ect) They all have there pros and cons in different areas, but all, in the end can do everything the other can. Although C++ is multi platform...im just talking about the windows platform. I was just thinking that last night ^^ may not be completely true..
also when i said VB is better beginner language i meant its a lot easier to get up and going, the code is a little more straight forward.
Originally Posted by XGelite
You know, i was thinking. All languages ( not including web language) can do the same thing the other can, all are just as powerful. Its just the simplicity, and ease of use for different subjects that makes them different. ( by subjects i mean, hack coding, game programing, software development, ect) They all have there pros and cons in different areas, but all, in the end can do everything the other can. Although C++ is multi platform...im just talking about the windows platform. I was just thinking that last night ^^ may not be completely true..
also when i said VB is better beginner language i meant its a lot easier to get up and going, the code is a little more straight forward.
Now your getting it.
@CodeThug: There are a lot of forums that only use C++ and are very adept at it, which make it diffucult for a beginner to start off, my goal here is to make an enviroment even where a complete novice can get up to speed and not be thrust into difficult things like Dynamic Memory Allocation, DirectX, or Windows API until they are ready. I will say one thing VB is an excellent introductory langauge especially to prepare you for using the Windows API, and will give you experience with form editing and other things which I have near zero experience in. However you don't have to limit urself to one language. in fact learning multiple languages gives you a better understanding of programming as a whole.
Yes, there is no reason to limit yourself to one language. In fact, it will help if you learn more than just one. Also, if you know one well, then it will be easier to learn another.
Agreed, In my (by my I mean the industry I am in, which is commercial design of WebSites, Online Applications, Window Applications and PalmOs Applications) industry, Knowing Asp, Asp.net , VB, Html, (some) Php, Basic , CSS, XML, and the Fundamentals of C# has come in handy.
Example:
Developing online applications (/or sites)
I am currently working on a Online Os for a client, This OS is being developed using ASP.Net , The code behind will be either C# or Vb.net on a per page basis depending on it's needs. Having the knowledge of the other languages allows me to develop a Rich UI with Ajax components and develop a Fully Function online OS with it's own applications, knowledge of VB/C# allows me to generate real applications the can be run with ASP.net to manifest in your browser, The knowledge of HTML and CSS allows me to integrate Styles that match your standard OS's and mimic their functionality, While the knowledge of XML allows me to develop web services in WSDL format which will allow me to reference API on the server to make this experience more authentic.
So essentially , I agree with XG and Why, But I say start small, learn HTML and Basic (Qbasic) The Fundamentals and etiquette you learn from designing in a web based and command based language will help you develop yourself , and when you feel you have a grasp for the concepts then you can move to a IDE like Visual Studio
How the above Helps, HTML/PHP requires some form of keeping code clean, learning HTML will give you a understanding for keeping things uniform (so will ASP, but using components can be difficult at first) , I'll dub this process as the "Coding etiquette process" Learn how to place notes in your code, maybe now you will be the only one working on a project but this etiquette will teach you how to be a coder and work with others in developing rich applications.
Learning basic will teach you many functions of VB.net or even C++ (or #) Learning Basic will not teach you the language , but will give you a understanding of the basic fundamentals required in application development.
In basic you will have to learn how to create Subs and inherit system functions, how to draw graphics on the window with pure code . In a sence harder to use then VB , but that level of work will give you strength when moving to an IDE.
Originally Posted by NextGen1
