Building a PC

I need help picking what parts to get because I have never built a pc. This laptop that I am on has a integrated card which is trash. My budget is $1000, I would like to spend only $800 or 900 because I want to buy games. I want to run all the high end games currently and at least 5 years in the future.

And where do I buy the parts, online or store?

make sure to try and buy a graphics card if you plan to be gaming.

Originally Posted by GoldenPotato

I need help picking what parts to get because I have never built a pc. This laptop that I am on has a integrated card which is trash. My budget is $1000, I would like to spend only $800 or 900 because I want to buy games. I want to run all the high end games currently and at least 5 years in the future.

And where do I buy the parts, online or store?

buy windows on MPGH

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Combo...=Combo.3468060 <MB CPU RAM
Pick an RX 580 of choice, all are similarly prices around $210-240
Pick a case you like and a decent PSU
and get a hyper 212

Originally Posted by DildoTheCloutGod

buy windows on MPGH

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Combo...=Combo.3468060ⓘ <MB CPU RAM
Pick an RX 580 of choice, all are similarly prices around $210-240
Pick a case you like and a decent PSU
and get a hyper 212

I wouldn't recommend the Hyper 212. I would recommend the Cryorig H7 instead. It is similarly priced but the cooling temperatures are a few degrees better and it is a smaller form factor which means less (or none) of your RAM slots are blocked.

I recommend you read the threads here:

http://www.mpgh.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=686

Online is better, maybe you could get a "refund" and build a better pc with the money.

Good luck bro.

Originally Posted by GoldenPotato

I need help picking what parts to get because I have never built a pc. This laptop that I am on has a integrated card which is trash. My budget is $1000, I would like to spend only $800 or 900 because I want to buy games. I want to run all the high end games currently and at least 5 years in the future.

And where do I buy the parts, online or store?

Add me on Skype, I can make you a custom part list for your budget. Skype: theo.cm

computers are outdated, fidget spinners are the future.

Part list
Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.49 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - Z170-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($52.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K4000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.88 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($68.89 @ Jet)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1001.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

OR if you want something smaller and more budget oriented:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($78.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K4000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.88 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($234.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake - Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $904.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I mean only 96.70 dollars cheaper, but I did upgrade the ssd to m.2 for better speeds, but it's not necessary at all.
Lmk if you have questions.
Most parts I listed can be swapped for similar ones, these are more of just starting guides.

Just realized you said high end games now and also five years in the future, you might want to get at least a gtx 1070. 1060 might be pushing it to the limit.

Originally Posted by Duke

Part list
Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.49 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - Z170-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($52.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K4000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.88 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($68.89 @ Jet)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1001.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

OR if you want something smaller and more budget oriented:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($78.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K4000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.88 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($234.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake - Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $904.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I mean only 96.70 dollars cheaper, but I did upgrade the ssd to m.2 for better speeds, but it's not necessary at all.
Lmk if you have questions.
Most parts I listed can be swapped for similar ones, these are more of just starting guides.

Just realized you said high end games now and also five years in the future, you might want to get at least a gtx 1070. 1060 might be pushing it to the limit.

Second build is good, but replace the 1500x w/ a 1600 and it comes with a very decent cooler. Also try to get RAM w/ higher frequency because Ryzen likes fast RAM. Would not suggest Intel for CPU unless you're getting a 7700k (pure gaming) or G4560 (super budget).

Originally Posted by Duke

Part list
Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.49 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - Z170-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($52.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K4000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.88 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($68.89 @ Jet)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1001.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

OR if you want something smaller and more budget oriented:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($78.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K4000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.88 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($234.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake - Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $904.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I mean only 96.70 dollars cheaper, but I did upgrade the ssd to m.2 for better speeds, but it's not necessary at all.
Lmk if you have questions.
Most parts I listed can be swapped for similar ones, these are more of just starting guides.

Just realized you said high end games now and also five years in the future, you might want to get at least a gtx 1070. 1060 might be pushing it to the limit.

I like the second build, gtx 1060 6gb is really good for me because I can upgrade it when needed in like 3 years when it gets outdated, 3TB of storage is too much, and my only concern is with the micro-atx motherboard. ( I dont know shit about motherboards) will micro atx be similar to an atx motherboard or will their be a significant different performance.

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This is my current build that I put together, any improvements, things I can change, etc.

CPU: Intel - Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk - SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.03 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($204.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill - GRAM ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.49 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.69 @ OutletPC)
Wired Network Adapter: TP-Link - TG-3468 PCI-Express x1 10/100/1000 Mbps Network Adapter ($11.95 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus - VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($259.99 @ Best Buy)
Keyboard: Redragon - S101 Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1146.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

@GoldenPotato
Micro is a smaller form factor of standard atx. You're not losing much, especially if you don't plan on putting in two graphics cards. Idk how much storage you'd need so I just put what I had, and I'm about to run out of space too. Tbh I am using it as a media server as well.

You'll save space and money with a smaller board. If you go with micro you won't lose that many features either.

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Originally Posted by njknoijhbosdhbfo

Second build is good, but replace the 1500x w/ a 1600 and it comes with a very decent cooler. Also try to get RAM w/ higher frequency because Ryzen likes fast RAM. Would not suggest Intel for CPU unless you're getting a 7700k (pure gaming) or G4560 (super budget).

You don't even need a 7700k for gaming. Both processors I listed are very similar in performance and price. The cpu is not going to be a bottleneck when gaming. Also this ram will work perfectly, unless you're running synthetic benchmarks everyday. You're not going to notice much, if any, difference in performance in real world uses. That's the cheapest per gigabyte of ram, while also not being garbage.

Originally Posted by Duke

@GoldenPotato
Micro is a smaller form factor of standard atx. You're not losing much, especially if you don't plan on putting in two graphics cards. Idk how much storage you'd need so I just put what I had, and I'm about to run out of space too. Tbh I am using it as a media server as well.

You'll save space and money with a smaller board. If you go with micro you won't lose that many features either.

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No, my point was the ONLY worthwhile Intel CPUs worth buying at the moment are the 7700ks and G4560. There is simply no reason for for anyone to buy i5s because Ryzen is simply better for most applications and is more future proof. While the RAM frequency doesn't really matter for Intel CPUs, it actually matters quite a bit on Ryzen CPUs. You can look this up if you'd like.

Originally Posted by njknoijhbosdhbfo

No, my point was the ONLY worthwhile Intel CPUs worth buying at the moment are the 7700ks and G4560. There is simply no reason for for anyone to buy i5s because Ryzen is simply better for most applications and is more future proof. While the RAM frequency doesn't really matter for Intel CPUs, it actually matters quite a bit on Ryzen CPUs. You can look this up if you'd like.

TIL, gonna go look this up. (Memory being important)
And every processor is worth something.
Ryzen isn't really more future proof, in fact it might be less. Yea it's got a bigger core count and far better multithreaded performance, it still has worse single core performance, which is more important in today's world, especially in gaming. There isn't enough push to warrant swapping speed for cores yet.

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Well I looked up the frequency thing, and yep, you're right. Neat. Although his graphics card might bottleneck it before his memory frequency does. The tests I saw were with a 1080.

Originally Posted by Duke

TIL, gonna go look this up. (Memory being important)
And every processor is worth something.
Ryzen isn't really more future proof, in fact it might be less. Yea it's got a bigger core count and far better multithreaded performance, it still has worse single core performance, which is more important in today's world, especially in gaming. There isn't enough push to warrant swapping speed for cores yet.

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Well I looked up the frequency thing, and yep, you're right. Neat. Although his graphics card might bottleneck it before his memory frequency does. The tests I saw were with a 1080.

Yeah, but I could definitely see the gaming industry moving towards more multi-core performance. A prime example would be BF1.

Originally Posted by njknoijhbosdhbfo

Yeah, but I could definitely see the gaming industry moving towards more multi-core performance. A prime example would be BF1.

Oh they are, there's a new feature in either direct x 12 or something on the and side that's been added to help developers utilize more cores. Afaik it really hasn't been utilized and even then it tops off at around 4 cores for best efficiency.

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