Skids

thats pretty much the only method other then partial and empty box. and if its not why have the 5/6 refunders I used do DNA, even one who said "I use a private method" did DNA. I have the chat to prove it and I can show the email says REASON: Package did not arrive. I would say their name but they are on another forum and I don't think we can talk about other forums. (their name is the name of a popular designer brand)

this is the world is fraud witch is illegal so you can't complain about something illegal being patched its part of the game. you move on.

and this is what I have to say, if you are complaining about it that probably means you have not done a refund on them yet, that means you just leech sites from forums and you don't go out try to refund on your own to find a jackpot site like GE then DON'T TELL ANYONE SO YOU CAN MAKE THE MOST MONEY, then after that sell a refund service for it when its no longer a use you to make more money.

and thats how and why sites like that get out, a refunder finds the site, abuses it to refund to every addy he has. after he can no longer do it if they have a ******* they might offer it to the ******* or if they have it people who pay to be the first to get a refund from new sites. once that money is made they open it to all the normies in the ******* then eventuality make it on a public forum like this to tap the last dollars before its dead.

you are just behind on the game. if you want to win in refunding you need to take risks and try sites on your own.

You act like thats not what half of the "best" (read: most used) refunders do on this website, for all stores.

Express could've lasted a bit longer is all I'm saying. Trust me, I've been doing this, Im not new to it. Let me clarify though, skids made it harder for themselves so really they have no choice but to run to an OG refunder which is something they should've fucking done in the first place instead of fucking up shit.

I barely refund to myself, only in the game to do the service for others and making money on the fees.

If you are a DNA- method refunder you won't be able to do majority of Europe, fake and real signed packages where it takes actually "social engineering" aka manipulating the rep.

And for some stores it's more than just saying one statement like "package didn't show up", that won't work. You need to get around all the other questions that the reps will throw on you and to skip carrier investigations. Some refunders can't even properly handle BASIC questions like:

- Is the package tampered with?
- What does the package look like?
- What's up with the weight?
- It says it's been signed for?
- We have video footage.
- Police reports that they think kills the refund.

And some stores will actually instant refund you if you use the phone instead of the live chat.

Exactly, pay some OG's to do this shit, they can talk to reps with ease and handle things smoothly instead of a kid calling and stumbling to find words to say. Yeah some excuses are public, but it is not the same when a guy that has done like 5000 orders calls and a kid that is worrying to refund a t-shirt calls. The kid will feel guilty and if the rep even asks something with an aggressive tone he will be like: OH MY GAWD I AM SO SO SORRY I APOLOGISE, PLS NO JAIL

rip to the refunding business

Yall know we can't stop the 9 years old raping the stores. I myself stopped refunding for a while now just because got sick of it.

yeah it's soooo hard to get a flip phone for $20 and a prepaid calling card for $20. most prepaid companies allow you to change your cell phone number as many times if you complain that the number you got is being spammed everyday. also there are plenty of free vpns out there so i don't want to hear it

Well, I find this discussion interesting and I think that I might be one of the "Skids". I only refunded clothing and I did some partial before but now just did the DND method for a fake signed 800USD Nike order and got the full refund (you can only really do clothing in EU) . I always use the live chat because I found to be the most effective method. I just know the Empty Box, DND and partial method and, maybe I am to stupid, but cant imagine how other methods would sound like.

Maybe a solution to keep the "refunding bussiness" alive for longer would be to share more? I mean yeah I understand many of you did experimenting with new sites and actually risked (I did it myself with a book store, and it worked) but still, the only guy who was willing to teach me stuff was asking for like 500-600USD which to few people are willing to pay.

Share more? The fuck are you talking about, as soon as shits get shared here it's public and within a matter of a week or two shits patched to the roof.

People here are only after info to get this done themselve, they all think there's some special method which gets you instant refunds for 10K+ orders. That's not how this shit works, if you think this is, stick to watching Nickelodeon.

This shit ain't hard at all, it's common sense and you need to manipulate the fuck out of the rep and your talking skills need to be on-point.


People who just want info, but not paying for it, the lowest of the lowest - Yet they want to refund Macbooks and what the fuck not, but can't spend a dime for the information they just received?

Also, 600 to teach you is a bargain still. Note this, the guy is spending his time where he could do refunds and make more than 600, instead he wants to tutor you so you can do your own refunds. Doesn't make any sense

Yeah I am not talking about macbooks or high-end expensive stuff, from what I got told electronics do not work where I am from, so I got to stick only to clothing.

So... you butthurt about skids raping stores, but you don't complain about:
A Massive open marketplace with a list of stores people can refund (so kids can figure which companies are rape-able ATM);
A massive open forum dedicated to scamming companies;

You see, without those cunts who're refunding for 10% with the extremely advanced excuse of "my package did not arrived/it's a fake signature so it must've been someone else/the box was empty", kids wouldn't have a single idea of where to start. Express would've lasted longer if... look at that... there wouldn't be a single thread dedicated to it!