Hey visible,

Originally Posted by Alen

They still can't be identical to the Qur'an that was created centuries later

We will never know, oh and i believe all men are the son of God, Jesus is the son of God, but not son as in father and son, but as in hes the creator so "son" is the metaphor of creation, as a father creates a son.

What i have a problem with is "begotten" son, which is a sexual refrence to getting a son.

If i was told to follow the bible i would, but with my own interpretation, i dont follow others i investigate for my self.

As for an athiest, i "suggest" adopting a religion

no matter what it is, but worship 1 God, i understand how your used to being an athiest but, just try, maby you like it, maby you don't, but im not suggesting you to give up your life.

Just give it a go

, i've given athiesm a go for like 2months

gotta say i loved it, having no rules, but i faced the fact that life is rules, and no rules breaks every rule.

Nihlism. I manage just fine, Nietzsche, Heidegger and Schopenhauer are worth reading /

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Originally Posted by Alen

Nihlism. I manage just fine, Nietzsche, Heidegger and Schopenhauer are worth reading /

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What i think is athiest is just refusing to handle the law (religious law, rules) but i am starting to think its just another faith in which you believe there is no meaning to life.

but tbh, if i met someone in real life like this i will be baffled.

Originally Posted by Visiblegaming

What i think is athiest is just refusing to handle the law (religious law, rules) but i am starting to think its just another faith in which you believe there is no meaning to life.

but tbh, if i met someone in real life like this i will be baffled.

I believe there is no "greater purpose" to life. As for the meaning, that's up to us. If we do something great our lives will mean something to this world and it's (future) inhabitants /

Religion serves as some sort of caring mother that will caress you and tell you what is right and what is wrong and that you have a purpose. In reality right and wrong are defined by your culture and beliefs (religion shapes our culture and beliefs so most people believe in the moral values from religions, even if they aren't religious - I believe that doing "good" stuff is right for example /

), but (from my point of view) nobody has a purpose that they will be able to know (if the question of predetermination is brought up there is a high chance everything is predetermined but, as Heisenberg's uncertainty principle says - we cannot know what will happen thus we have free will).

Originally Posted by m3_

I believe there is no "greater purpose" to life. As for the meaning, that's up to us. If we do something great our lives will mean something to this world and it's (future) inhabitants /

Religion serves as some sort of caring mother that will caress you and tell you what is right and what is wrong and that you have a purpose. In reality right and wrong are defined by your culture and beliefs (religion shapes our culture and beliefs so most people believe in the moral values from religions, even if they aren't religious - I believe that doing "good" stuff is right for example /

), but (from my point of view) nobody has a purpose that they will be able to know (if the question of predetermination is brought up there is a high chance everything is predetermined but, as Heisenberg's uncertainty principle says - we cannot know what will happen thus we have free will).

O.O I'm starting to understand, but your the first person i understand the other non-religious people i know are life "I don't care about religion..." and so on.

we cannot know what will happen thus we have free will

I believe we have free will, but i also believe we cannot know what will happen, but what i ALSO believe is that we will be judged.

Visible the problem with you believing w/e you want is not that its wrong, its that you argue and say that only your belief is right, when you aren't even a follower of the religion, or even look up what other people of the religion follow.

Basically, you think "A" and then say "B" is what other people believe when really they believe "C" and your just making up "B" because it goes somewhat with your belief in "A"

Originally Posted by Empire

Visible the problem with you believing w/e you want is not that its wrong, its that you argue and say that only your belief is right, when you aren't even a follower of the religion, or even look up what other people of the religion follow.

Basically, you think "A" and then say "B" is what other people believe when really they believe "C" and your just making up "B" because it goes somewhat with your belief in "A"

Green:No sense at all.

Count the amount of times i've said "Christianity/Muslim/Judaism are like the same religion"...Mhm over 5x.

you see Most people follow a "school of teaching" and call them self "sunni, shia, wahabi" ect. but i dont like calling my self neither, i call my self a Muslim and thats where it ends.

Sects are prohibited in Islam, but people still keep making them.

Originally Posted by Visiblegaming

Green:No sense at all..

Let me simplify it.

YOU MAKE STUFF UP BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW.

Originally Posted by Empire

Let me simplify it.

YOU MAKE STUFF UP BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW.

You still mad ?

Originally Posted by Hassan

You still mad ?

You still necro for MJ?

:/ judgement is all to often used as a threat. Even by you visible.

visible is just a butthurt fag who argues in the debate section to gain attention.

Originally Posted by Empire

:/ judgement is all to often used as a threat. Even by you visible.

A threat? when did i use it as a threat dumbass.

Now i use it as a threat

: if you dont change your ways your going to be dancing with the devil - immortal technique

Originally Posted by Puffin

visible is just a butthurt fag who argues in the debate section to gain attention.

^Has nothing to do with this section, yet trieng to seek attention.

Im the butthurt fag right? and im the one seeking attention? ok bro nice one

Saying "your going to hell if you don't believe this" is a threat visible.

Originally Posted by Empire

Saying "your going to hell if you don't believe this" is a threat visible.

Oh really its a threat? well how about this.

If you don't change the way you are, you Will end up in the wrong end of the bridge.

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