About hack detection in Vindictus ,probably most important topic in MPGH Vindictus?

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About hack detection in Vindictus ,probably most important topic in MPGH Vindictus?
What is the cause of it?

Huge amount of gold transfer/Fast runs/5 hits on raids/Spam Solo hero dungeons and much more

But what else?
Could autoban system recognise when you type a COMMAND ? ,for example, you can play with "GOD MODE" only ,yet your account will be banned cause you typed god, can this be detectable for example? ,can commands be detectable by just typing them? or since its client side it wont send data about typing GOD ? ,if this is true, then using GOD only ,will get you undetected forever as long you dont spam hero missions solo one after each ,same dungeons and so on!

Why hfs were detectable? ,was 150% more dmg than normal too much? ,did NEXON put a limit to DMG on max att possible/crit? and when someone exceed it ,he will get a ban cause he exceeded max dmg possible ? (for example ,you have 22 k att ,yet u give even 150% more dmg and u get ban ,that mean is obvious NEXON put a limiter for dmg (so a 50% prolly wont get you banned since you can use exquisite weapon for 50% more dmg) ,i dont know if its working like this or not ,i just thought about IT!

Again, why hfs were detectable? editing skill cooldowns/raids and monsters stats send data and system check and u get a ban ? ,since its client sided via HFS not CONSOLE ,should be undetected ,is hfs really undetected about editing your stats or raid stats etc? or...

How does this shitty autoban system works after all? i understand a part of it, but fuck it, too complicated... ,even legit players get ban, seriously.... any other ideas? any answers to my questions? eh

I hope i didnt helped crappy NEXON by writing this topic ,if that so ,you can delete it lol!

Quote Originally Posted by maddoggy00 View Post
http://www.mpgh.net/forum/423-vindic...st-2012-a.html

.hfs file mods were not detected. They patched them by simply changing the signing encryption. If you got banned, it was due to account behavior.
Hah, thats just insane ,so that mean OHK/GOD/KILLALL are detected when u type them ,so consoles are 500% detectable when you type a command in-game... ,even if its NA that we're talking about...

GOD = maybe their autoban system sees when moob/raid gives u hit yet u get no damage, and this is how u get ban
OHK = Damage too insane for the current ATT and mabye this is another reason why system bans you
ALLKILL = Cmon ,u cant kill 23626 moobs in 0,1s with 262367347 dmg ,obviously ban 100%

Their system are pretty smart imo ,is not about spamming dungeons under 3 min, any moron can do that unless you're a level 14 with shi.t att, maybe they put system to ban people with impossible time at low level

Yep ,we never know ,this is just what i though ,i dont know if its true all what i said ,i just tryed to guess ,if thats true ,hfs are detectable when u edit character stats
Quote Originally Posted by genesis1995 View Post
Hah, thats just insane ,so that mean OHK/GOD/KILLALL are detected when u type them ,so consoles are 500% detectable when you type a command in-game... ,even if its NA that we're talking about...

GOD = maybe their autoban system sees when moob/raid gives u hit yet u get no damage, and this is how u get ban
OHK = Damage too insane for the current ATT and mabye this is another reason why system bans you
ALLKILL = Cmon ,u cant kill 23626 moobs in 0,1s with 262367347 dmg ,obviously ban 100%

Their system are pretty smart imo ,is not about spamming dungeons under 3 min, any moron can do that unless you're a level 14 with shi.t att, maybe they put system to ban people with impossible time at low level

Yep ,we never know ,this is just what i though ,i dont know if its true all what i said ,i just tryed to guess ,if thats true ,hfs are detectable when u edit character stats
I think you have no idea what you are talking about
Quote Originally Posted by Wasabixi View Post
I think you have no idea what you are talking about
why?
i dont tell these things random lol...

if u know everything and i dont know nothing then talk...

The reason i opened this topic was obviously to KNOW how autoban system works actually and i just used my thoughts, now ure not friendly and ur not helping at all, so please... dont tell me "I think you have no idea what you are talking about" cuz u arent smarter ,neither braver
Quote Originally Posted by genesis1995 View Post
why?
i dont tell these things random lol...

if u know everything and i dont know nothing then talk...

The reason i opened this topic was obviously to KNOW how autoban system works actually and i just used my thoughts, now ure not friendly and ur not helping at all, so please... dont tell me "I think you have no idea what you are talking about" cuz u arent smarter ,neither braver
WELL, for once, no command are detected when you type them in, that's simply not how it works.

Godmode does not prevent you from taking damage, it's just prevent you from falling to 0 hp. This is why you can still be killed in some instance such as falling from great height, got into a 1hit ko boss grabs, etc...

I'm sure there are other errors in your posts as well but these 2 are glaringly obvious, and your tone does not help either.
Quote Originally Posted by genesis1995 View Post
why?
i dont tell these things random lol...

if u know everything and i dont know nothing then talk...

The reason i opened this topic was obviously to KNOW how autoban system works actually and i just used my thoughts, now ure not friendly and ur not helping at all, so please... dont tell me "I think you have no idea what you are talking about" cuz u arent smarter ,neither braver


Some my not know this, but you use commands while playing the game legit. Have you ever looked into your config file, let alone the DLLs? The config binds commands to keys, just like we did with the console, so no it cannot be from using commands in game via console that you'd be auto banned. The fact of the matter is HackShield is total junk and has very little power over anything, if you'd like to know how it works, you can find explanations on Google and believe me, there is much better anti-hack software available.

In my opinion, "My Opinion" for the period of time I've been using hacks on Vindictus, the only way you'll be banned is if you draw too much attention to yourself, finishing an 8man raid in 10 seconds 100 times in a row would in effect, draw attention to your account, sending large sums of money to other accounts too, honestly, follow Nico's example "I'm playing legit with my hacks". I've also heard that if you receive the delay in dungeons after killing the boss too fast your account will be "flagged", its not totally unreasonable to believe this, but what happens when you get it in legit runs? as you said above, it's very easy to do. In all honesty, I do not even believe there even is an "Auto Ban" system.

EDIT:
(Just read the post above) >.>
Quote Originally Posted by Wasabixi View Post
WELL, for once, no command are detected when you type them in, that's simply not how it works.

Godmode does not prevent you from taking damage, it's just prevent you from falling to 0 hp. This is why you can still be killed in some instance such as falling from great height, got into a 1hit ko boss grabs, etc...

I'm sure there are other errors in your posts as well but these 2 are glaringly obvious, and your tone does not help either.
commands are detected, but not when you type them in they are checked at three different points in the game, atleast 12-15 times
I over-used mods like Hell for about two weeks I suppose and I didn't get banned. My Evie practically had God mode and could insta-kill every spawned monster at once.
I don't think we can speculate some that outrageous without any adept knowledge of the game system. You don't know for sure but I'm sure that there are some people running out there hacking their ass off and still no bans. How? I don't know and honestly it is best to leave to the experienced people to judge.
and also
YOU SOUND MAD SIR,
read your freaken post
I have doubts they don't check commands being executed. I've made 4 accounts before and they all got banned without starting a dungeon/only standing in town. Plus, it's not the usual "restricted" message but a "permanently banned" message. The commands I executed were my own ones o:
Quote Originally Posted by dewdew View Post
I have doubts they don't check commands being executed. I've made 4 accounts before and they all got banned without starting a dungeon/only standing in town. Plus, it's not the usual "restricted" message but a "permanently banned" message. The commands I executed were my own ones o:
sounded like you got monitored and manually banned
Quote Originally Posted by Wasabixi View Post
sounded like you got monitored and manually banned
Each were banned within a minute just after I use some of my commands. I don't think that's manual lol.
Quote Originally Posted by dewdew View Post
Each were banned within a minute just after I use some of my commands. I don't think that's manual lol.
who knows? if you were on dank's lvl I doubt anything is impossible.
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