Gold Exploit Finding

Originally Posted by Riigged

might as well discuss about it since it's gonna be patched any day most likely (rumor has it that the game devs know the method), lets at least try to find it out in the meantime

Done via external program/script or of some sort - CONFIRMED, CATCHME HAS A CUSTOM PROGRAM THAT HE USES TO DO THIS. BUT THE PROGRAM I AM USING AS SEEN IN THE PICTURE IS BASICALLY WHAT HIS DOES

EDIT: NOTE TO KEEP IN MIND: ALL ACCOUNTS HAVE BEGINNER PACKAGE BOUGHT ON THEM, I KNOW THAT THE BEGINNER PACKAGE WAS A VERY BIG PART OF THE LAST GOLD EXPLOIT, NOT SURE ABOUT THIS ONE THOUGH, MIGHT JUST ONLY HAVE BEGINNER PACKAGE ON ALL OF THEM SINCE ON A FRESH ACCOUNT IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN $20 WORTH OF GOLD THE BEGINNER PACKAGE IS AUTOMATICALLY APPLIED

my idea of how it works:
the $5 package is bought and they tamper the request mid-way so you change the value to 16,000 instead of 500 so that your account is given 16,000 gold instead (the external program is how you change the value)
(maybe only 16,000 is the highest u can do since the game possibly might be programmed to only give out sets of 500, 1200, 2600, 7000, 16000 gold since those are the in-game purchase amounts)
and you can only do it a couple times (5 times max, which would be 80k gold, assuming so since thats highest amount i see on the gold accounts being sold) before the account gets auto banned or something like that?

hence why
1) all gold accounts sold on mpgh are always have 16k, 32k, 48k, 64k, 80k
2) highest gold account sold on mpgh always has 80k gold
3) the price is higher for higher gold amount accounts since to make an 80k account using this (correct?) method it would cost $25
but to make a 16k account it would only cost $5, and well they obviously need profit, if it only cost $5 to do 80k on an account, i doubt
they would be so greedy to want so much for it considering that means it costs the same to make a 16k account and sell those for like $10

found the value 500 (edited it to 16000 as seen in pic) while tampering the request here (request is blocked and keeps attempting until "ok" is hit, so it gives you plenty of time to edit needed values or mess around with stuff) but i am virtually broke so didnt have $5 to invest:P

thank you for working this out and to swap waht you pay not the amount what program are you useing to do this with

Originally Posted by Riigged

is that a threat or a challenge?

Riigged has a 3 twigs. Rigs sells 2 twigs to Toddddd when he only meant to sell him 1 twig!
Oh NO! That rascal, always getting into trouble and such.
Toddddd turns around and sells 1 of his 2 twigs to SallyCheapBitch.
Riigged is out of a potential sell from SallyCheapBitch because Toddddd, that sly little trickster, sold the twig to SallyCheapBitch for cheaper.
Riigged now has to wait for someone else to buy his last twig, but this story only has 3 people so fuck Riigged and his stupid fucking twigs.

edit: okay im over this now. It was fun while it lasted.

@Riigged Dude what the fuck...

If you or your loved ones have lost POTENTIAL TWIG SALES, you may be entitled to financial compensation.

To actually add to the conversation, gold accounts that I looked at have a NetGameIds in their char/list which is used when realm accounts are registered on 3rd party services like steam. At the very least, one of the few methods is steam related..

Selling duped twigs

Someone should actually head over to the marketplace and put up a thread about selling twigs. That would be hilarious.

Yo stop selling twigs please you are stealing my POTENTIAL TWIGS SALES that i have going on right now... you're ruining my business if you sell twigs to people i couldve sold to

especially you @059

You are both right in different ways. Deca still makes money but using an exploit is providing an unfair advantage to hackers in the means of keys, pet feed, etc. When a legit player is paying for gold, and then a hacker comes along and pays for that same amount of gold but for reduced price, that should be labeled as fraud.

Imo

if I set up a private server, and I charge people for gold, and someone uses this same exploit on my server, I am not losing any damn money as the gold from my game I generate and distribute for free
i only charge people as a perk of owning the game and being the only one capable of accessing it

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Originally Posted by toddddd

lol yes that is simply losing the chance at making money, that is not physically losing money
does decas balance deduct when a gold account is sold? when the exploit is done? i dun think so.
youre talking about losing as if it counts no matter what, as if you found a lottery ticket on the ground and lost, you would say "that person lost money", no, they lost a chance at making some money, but they didnt not lose any actual money. you did not pay for the lotto ticket, so you did not lost $X. deca does not pay $100 for 16k gold therefore they dont lose $95~.

now, are you gonna buy some twigs or what? i need to pay my rent. oh shit. i forgot. youre just one of millions of people. i can care less if you dont buy twigs from me, im not gonna be petty over it, not like im losing any money if you dont buy from me, im losing a chance at making money off of you, yes, but i am not losing any actual money.

this whole time all ive been saying is losing a chance at making money is not the same as losing money and its simply the truth, the game owner (big bad deca) generates as much gold as they want for free because its their game, they distribute that gold for money this way they can simply support their game, but people exploiting/stealing gold is only them losing chances of making money, not actual money, theres big difference there and ive said it at least 900000 times in the past couple responses

think about it, if i hosted a game and i needed in-game purchases in order to earn some money from the game so i can keep paying to host it, i would most likely add an ingame currency just like realm has, but if someone used an exploit to get those for free, i would not be losing any money, as i programmed them into my game at no cost and distribute them to people who ENJOY THE GAME AND WANT MORE BENEFITS for money (u should check out pserver, set up pserver and pretend to be deca, then pretend to be someone exploiting the system, then u will understand what im saying probably)

even if i pay a cent for 16k they are not losing money, they just simply aren't making money (Except for a cent topkek)

having a rival company steal a customer isnt losing money, having some random thug run in my store and steal from my cash register is losing money.

dont understand why youre getting so tight about this either, its just common sense, not making as much money as you could be, is not losing money. i could find the rarest thing in the world and sell it for $5 instead of millions and i would not "lose money", i would have simply lost the chance at making more than i did.

Originally Posted by Riigged

my scenario was perfect, what do you mean!

deca gets gold for free (cuz its their game, dur dur dur), they distribute it to the players for money this way they can simply keep their game up.

NOW, its a different story if they were paying for the gold and redistributing it at a higher price than they payed for in order to make their money back+more (that is how stores in real life work, they get shipments from companies for good price, and they sell for their own price to make their money back+more), but thats not the case

edit: anyways, like ive been saying, we are looking at it from 2 different angles. you are talking about them losing chance at making money, i am talking about them physically losing money.

I'm not here to start an argument or side with anybody, but in the business world losing profit is still losing money. If someone is paying 1$ for 16k gold that normally costs 20$, then deca is losing 19$(they're not technically "Losing it" But by business standards that's 19$ more they should have, even though it wasn't technically lost it's defined as a net loss) every time someone makes this transaction. Mcdonalds could start giving out all their meals for half price, and they would be losing money. Why? Because while they are still making profit, the profit is not as high as it was before and thus they're losing money because they're not making as much.

thats what some people think, and some other people would disagree about.
not getting money you could've made is not losing money.
if i make a bet for $500 on the some kind of sports game or something, and it ties, and neither of us have to pay up, some people would say I lost $500, sure, but no, i lost the chance of making $500, but $500 was not taken from me.

Originally Posted by Riigged

gold is inherently worthless. using man hours and money, deca gives the gold "value". deca expects to make a return on their investment. they lose money when they dont make a return on their invested time and money spent maintaining and updating the game.

Originally Posted by bluuman

they have made their money back a long time ago, so yes, if this exploit were happening when they first bought the game (if they even bought it, i still unsure whether kabam gave it or not) then yes, they would be losing money, but not anymore since they have many many many profit money still

Originally Posted by Riigged

nah, they still pay the server bills using gold purchase. there are only so many potential customers. deca loses money they invested when people exploit and sell exploited gold. don't you know it costs money to run the servers?

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