Suicide

Originally Posted by lies'

I have been thinking about suicide for almost 3 years now. The only reason why i haven't commit suicide yet is because of Islam. Committing suicide is a big sin and i will go to hell if i do so. I always defend the Islam but i have to say that my belief is weak. I don't even pray five times a day. I don't pray at all. I do nothing but i still believe.

Whats your personal opinion about suicide? I know that many of you don't give a damn, and especially when the OP is a muslim. Well actually, i am a muslim by word but not be action. So if you only have trash to say than don't post at all.

Resources for Teen Self-Injury and Suicide Prevention

Read everything they have.

Suicide is a cowards way out. The only time it would ever be justifiable is if you were saving many other people in the process some way. If you think ending your life is what you need to do, you are wrong. You weren't born just to give up like a pussy. Yes I am being rude, but it's true. If you can take what life throws at you, then you're strong. If you kill yourself, you're weak. If starving children in 3rd world countries can continue to push on, so can you.

sing this song ten times and you will feel better

77 million people cant be wrong!

Originally Posted by Alen

Sorry, how exactly do we have no optimism? Feel free to read the Qur'an or Bible though, both mention fear as the inducer of morality, per se. As I'm assuming you're Christian, here's a little preview:

Old bible translation is old.
It actually means RESPECT god, not FEAR god

Originally Posted by Acidic

Old bible translation is old.
It actually means RESPECT god, not FEAR god

Proverbs 1:7; ESV; - The fear of the LORD is the beginning - Bible Gateway

Proverbs 9:10; ESV; - The fear of the LORD is the beginning - Bible Gateway

Proverbs 15:33; ESV; - The fear of the LORD is instruction in - Bible Gateway

Deuteronomy 10:12 And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul

2 Chronicles 19:7 Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do it: for there is no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts.

Psalms 19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

Wanna try that again?

Originally Posted by Doc

Proverbs 1:7; ESV; - The fear of the LORD is the beginning - Bible Gateway

Proverbs 9:10; ESV; - The fear of the LORD is the beginning - Bible Gateway

Proverbs 15:33; ESV; - The fear of the LORD is instruction in - Bible Gateway

Deuteronomy 10:12 And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul

2 Chronicles 19:7 Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do it: for there is no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts.

Psalms 19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

Wanna try that again?

Actually Doc he's right.. this might help you understand it a bit more.
http://******************/site/biblestudiesnet/fearlord
The word fear is used a lot in the Bible, but there is a difference between servile fear, and fear as in reverence to God.
Keep in mind the translational integrity.

Originally Posted by Ethereal

Actually Doc he's right.. this might help you understand it a bit more.
Fear the Lord - Bible Studies Net
The word fear is used a lot in the Bible, but there is a difference between servile fear, and fear as in reverence to God.
Keep in mind the translational integrity.

Still has that "fear" factor:

Also if we're talking about the Qur'an, it's even clearer

Originally Posted by Alen

Still has that "fear" factor:

Also if we're talking about the Qur'an, it's even clearer

Hey dude, I'm no longer religious..but I mean if God exists I'd say we should have a certain level of fear..
This would be a being that can create and destroy universes at will..kinda makes me want to poop a little.
Just sayin. Either way, my point was that FEAR in the Bible always doesn't mean to be scared shitless of God.

Originally Posted by Ethereal

Hey dude, I'm no longer religious..but I mean if God exists I'd say we should have a certain level of fear..
This would be a being that can create and destroy universes at will..kinda makes me want to poop a little.
Just sayin. Either way, my point was that FEAR in the Bible always doesn't mean to be scared shitless of God.

I agree

It isn't required by god to be afraid but the guy that could instantly kill you in any way imaginable I would be "fearful" of

suicide......i dont care =)

Basically Old Testament's all fear, fear, fear, or you'll burn like an overdone marshmallow, and then the New Testament says respect and all that

Originally Posted by The Rectum Ranger

Basically Old Testament's all fear, fear, fear, or you'll burn like an overdone marshmallow, and then the New Testament says respect and all that

Yeah well people change after they have a kid too.

Fear in the old testament is more like respect. Its worded oddly though.

Originally Posted by Acidic

Old bible translation is old.
It actually means RESPECT god, not FEAR god

Originally Posted by The Rectum Ranger

Basically Old Testament's all fear, fear, fear, or you'll burn like an overdone marshmallow, and then the New Testament says respect and all that

Originally Posted by Empire

Fear in the old testament is more like respect. Its worded oddly though.

I'm pretty sure it was meant to mean "fear", just as it does in many other religious texts. Whether or not you Christians have decided to misinterpret it nowadays and make it more socially acceptable by substituting "fear" with "respect", doesn't change the fact that for the most part we all follow similar moral values and rules mainly because the consequences of breaking them are feared.

Originally Posted by ARHQA$Y$YW4AYG4y

You don't read Bible when you're 15. Most likely wouldn't understand half of it.

I've read the bible twice and I aren't religious. The first time when I was 16 and the second when I was going through some really bad times a year ago when I was 19. Like I said, I aren't religious but I find some of the passages in there to be rather inspiring.

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